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Infant school is currently an Education good article nominee. Nominated by Llewee (talk) at 16:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Nominator: Llewee (talk · contribs) 16:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 07:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this on over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

I'll be adding comments as I go. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Started review, looking good, just some clarifications needed so far and some clarity in the lede on the subject. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave this for a bit so you can make some corrections, as some issues persist through the article and should be cleared up before I'm evaluating the material (attribution, glosses, clarity of paragraphs etc.) Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 10:01, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose and content

Lede

An infant school is a term which is used predominantly in England and Wales. It has been used since the 19th century to refer to schools or school departments that cater for children up to seven years old. → An infant school is a term used predominantly in England and Wales to refer to schools or school departments for children up to seven years old.
The lede shouldn't highlight that it's a term. It is notable that it is a distinct concept, rather than just a English and Welsh term for something that exists everywhere/elsewhere.
Why is Scotland mentioned for its historical use? It is discussed less than other historical examples.
They offered safety Clarify what safety means here.

Terminology

In England, Reception is considered part of the Early Years Foundation Stage Make it clear that this is part of Infant School
~~junior primary schools What are these?~~
"first class" or even "second class" What are these?

Background

Gloss: David Salmon and..., climbing boy
traditionally been seen as best that the fairly limited group of children who have tended to have access to schooling historically traditionally and historically duplicate each other.
Interest developed in expanded access to education date this / "at this time"
older than six or usually seven age six and up or seven and up?

Early infant schools

but it was introduced with the aim that it would not be the focus of instruction at this age I don't think this makes sense
It promoted the founding of new infant schools but had less success in training teachers. succeeded in promoting?
across England, the philosophy need conjunction, unsure which.
The years after 1811 saw a sharp is this during the push for infant schools or is what they were responding to?
T.B Stephens is sceptical of it of the effectiveness of the movement?
Whitbread comments that teachers, who were largely untrained and under pressure from the lack of time children had to attend school, often focused on introducing children to discipline and formal instruction. Stuff like this doesn't need attribution.
increasingly established control over infant increasingly controlled?
shared this view of their function What view?
suggests What do you mean when you write suggests? Are they arguing it? Are they revealing it? Do you think it is controversial?
regardless of their limitations What limitations are being referred to here?

Professionalisation and expansion

Glosses: monitorial system
The 1845 Fletcher quote is redundant if you're going to sum it up in prose.
"Are the replies of the children made intelligently or mechanically or by rote ? Do they appear to have confidence in their master or mistress [teacher] and to regard them with affection?" is it Roberts saying this?
especially from those who wanted an early start to academic education I wouldn't summarise the following quote into this.
The Glasgow Herald reported on a local infant school in 1835... Is this just saying the Glasgow Herald supported the purpose of cheerfulness? This whole paragraph feels like it doesn't have a clear thing being communicated, it needs better links between sentences.

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]