Talk:Lex Luger
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Stop Removing the interview info
[edit]Could the same two editors please stop removing the info about Lex's famous Superbrawl Saturday interview? If you search on google for "lex luger" + "superbrawl saturday", you get over 1,600 hits, more than some article subjects here. The crying wrestling fan Dave Willis (wrestling) has a page, and yet this info that takes up a small amount of his article page keeps getting removed. This info helps the page, not hurt it. Cornerbock 00:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's just another Internet meme, and not notable. Unless they go mainstream (like Chuck Norris) most other articles do not include mentions of their memes because it's not encyclopedic.--- bd Sup? - Where we goin'? 02:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think you should stop beating the dead horse and adding the video part. The video's already ran its course. Be sure to tell that to the posters at WrestleCrap. Duo02 *dilly-dally shilly-shally** 02:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- What is Wrestlecrap? I've never even heard of that site. This info should remain, lots of internet memes have their own pages, and this is just a small part of a page on an important wrestler. It's probably the most notable thing he's done in the past few years. If the crying wrestling fan (Dave Willis) can get his own page based on a clip that is about the same popularity, then there should be a paragraph on Luger's page about the clip. 69.209.113.141 05:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Still, the Luger video is no All Your Base or Chuck Norris, when it comes to mainstream popularity. Of course, I'm already familiar with AYB but I don't care about Norris. Duo02 *dilly-dally shilly-shally** 21:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Since when does all your base have mainstream popularity? Lex Luger is much more famous than some gay computer game. In fact he's one of the biggest legends and stars ever in this...GOD!!
- Since the cultural references to it had to be given a separate article. Give it up, it's over. «»bd(talk stalk) 22:47, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Request for Comment - Viral Video
[edit]Lex Luger cut a promo for some company, which someone or someones feels should be mentioned in the article, yet others don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdve (talk • contribs)
- I feel it does not belong, and the page should be protected to stop anon edit.Halbared 09:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- It definitely needs to stay, the internet memes category has hundreds of entries, with articles created solely on their clips. This clip is just as popular as most of them. There are plenty of g-hits, views and references to show that. This is a small part of an article, and it's likely the most notable thing he has been involved in in years. It keeps getting removed because a few editors don't like the clip. I'm not going to give any opinion over whether I like the clip, but I will say that it is notable in his life/career to warrant a mention in his article. The reasons it has been reverted are very odd to me, it seems to me that the few people that have removed it say things like "it's not funny" or "you're beating a dead horse to the ground" and things like that, which aren't reasons for removing it. I will do whatever I can to keep this info on this page, and I feel it should remain at least until this RfC concludes. 69.209.113.141 15:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- To add before I forget, why does The Iron Sheik get a big write up on the "Brian Blair" viral video, and Luger may be left with nothing? 69.209.113.141 04:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- It does not belong. Neither should the Sheiks probably. 12.34.246.5 13:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- The reason The Iron Sheiks is there, though it's rather large, is because it's actually about the man himself. This is just a stupid internet meme that will be forgotten in a matter of weeks.«»bd(talk stalk) 16:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's been around for a year, and it hasn't been forgotten at all, and it likely never will be. Like I say, if certain articles are created solely on internet memes, then another meme that is just as popular that takes a low percentage of space on an article should be fine and it totally notable. I would like other, non-biased editors to look into this, there should be more people commenting on it other than those who keep reverting it for no good reason whatsoever. 69.209.113.141 22:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- According to your logic anyone who says it shouldn't be included is biased. If you venture out to any other wrestling message boards other then wrestlecrap you won't find any active threads still discussing it. 49erInOregon 23:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Then why does the Iron Sheik's article still have lots of info about a viral video? Why does Dave Willis have his own page, where the notability is pretty much based on a viral video? Why are there several hundred entries in the internet memes category, that are solely based on a video clip shown on the internet? I'm just adding a small part to an article about a notable event in his career. I have sourced it and shown how widespread it is. And an RfC is used to request comments from those who haven't worked on the page. Every comment maker here has reverted the page one way or the other. I would like to hear from editors who don't usually edit wrestling articles and just comment based on what they see. I know that I am correct, and I have provided much evidence that the page will stay, and I will fight all I can to keep this info on here, because I know it is notable and important to his article and wikipedia. 69.209.113.141 04:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- It is very difficult to believe you are serious when you have used other anon ip accounts to vandalise Sid Eudy's page and others. Did you forget your cornerbock password? Trying to establish credibility by making small changes that aren't controversial is a well-known tactic that vandals use to try to mask their acts. As I said before I don't think Sheik's stuff should be there either and the Dave Willis page will probably be deleted in due time. Why don't you go ahead and nominate it yourself? Saying stuff like this should be in there is like saying Walter Payton was known for his singing abilities and his 33 that was available at KFC in the 80s.49erInOregon 04:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what "cornerbock" is and I have never vandalized Sid Eudy's page, that must be someone else. I am just adding a notable section in the proper area (toward the bottom, not in the intro). There's established precendents about internet memes and their notability. 69.209.113.141 05:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Adding the infamous Luger interview to the page is akin to adding a special section to an actor's page about a blooper on a sitcom. I'm essentially indifferent about whether or not it's mentioned on the page, but if it is, it does not necessitate a major section. A passing comment is sufficient, such as "In recent years, Luger has received notoriety within some communities on the internet for an interview outtake from his tenure in NWA Cyberspace." Anything more would grossly overemphasize and overestimate the significance of the interview (especially in contrast to major events in his life and career) and anything less will inevitably leave people complaining. BOne 01:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think a brief mention like you said would be perfectly acceptable. 49erInOregon 15:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Adding the infamous Luger interview to the page is akin to adding a special section to an actor's page about a blooper on a sitcom. I'm essentially indifferent about whether or not it's mentioned on the page, but if it is, it does not necessitate a major section. A passing comment is sufficient, such as "In recent years, Luger has received notoriety within some communities on the internet for an interview outtake from his tenure in NWA Cyberspace." Anything more would grossly overemphasize and overestimate the significance of the interview (especially in contrast to major events in his life and career) and anything less will inevitably leave people complaining. BOne 01:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know what "cornerbock" is and I have never vandalized Sid Eudy's page, that must be someone else. I am just adding a notable section in the proper area (toward the bottom, not in the intro). There's established precendents about internet memes and their notability. 69.209.113.141 05:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- It is very difficult to believe you are serious when you have used other anon ip accounts to vandalise Sid Eudy's page and others. Did you forget your cornerbock password? Trying to establish credibility by making small changes that aren't controversial is a well-known tactic that vandals use to try to mask their acts. As I said before I don't think Sheik's stuff should be there either and the Dave Willis page will probably be deleted in due time. Why don't you go ahead and nominate it yourself? Saying stuff like this should be in there is like saying Walter Payton was known for his singing abilities and his 33 that was available at KFC in the 80s.49erInOregon 04:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Then why does the Iron Sheik's article still have lots of info about a viral video? Why does Dave Willis have his own page, where the notability is pretty much based on a viral video? Why are there several hundred entries in the internet memes category, that are solely based on a video clip shown on the internet? I'm just adding a small part to an article about a notable event in his career. I have sourced it and shown how widespread it is. And an RfC is used to request comments from those who haven't worked on the page. Every comment maker here has reverted the page one way or the other. I would like to hear from editors who don't usually edit wrestling articles and just comment based on what they see. I know that I am correct, and I have provided much evidence that the page will stay, and I will fight all I can to keep this info on here, because I know it is notable and important to his article and wikipedia. 69.209.113.141 04:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- According to your logic anyone who says it shouldn't be included is biased. If you venture out to any other wrestling message boards other then wrestlecrap you won't find any active threads still discussing it. 49erInOregon 23:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- As a matter of fact it basically has been forgotten... all except by this guy. I vote not to include it 49erInOregon 16:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC
- Due to this whole clusterschmozz, I gave the section an NPOV tag. Duo02 *dilly-dally shilly-shally** 04:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- How much longer until this RFC is over? Since no one else has commented to keep it besides cornerbock and his IP's, there doesn't seem to be many people demanding that this stay in.49erInOregon 19:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
- When others who have not been involved with reverting the page can comment (like editors/admins that aren't pro wrestling fans), then it can be ended. But let me just say, I am not cornerbock or the 72.0.0.0 IPs. That is someone else. And I will make sure that it stays on the page b/c it is an important part of his career and precedents are set. 69.209.115.10 15:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fine then, where do we gather these parties? I made the RfC, no one came. I'll bring it up (again) on the WP:PW talk page, but it's unlikely more han two or three people from there will bother either. We can't call it an impasse just because no one else cares.«»bd(talk stalk) 18:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- There is a lot of evidence that you are all the same... edit styles... remarks and everything. Plus there is this link where a wrestlecrapper (stockdiver) tells other forum people to edit this page if it gets removed no matter what the argument. http://realwrestlecrap.proboards89.com/index.cgi?board=wrestling&action=print&thread=1159730314
"And some jerk keeps removing info about Lex's famous viral video on his page as well, we need him to stop it, so revert that back if you get a chance"49erInOregon 19:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Speaking of the Wrestlecrap forum, be on the lookout for a user named "Mohamo" to fan the flames (i.e., instigating this) as well. Duo02 *dilly-dally shilly-shally** 03:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
As others have suggested above, I think a brief mention of the "I DON'T KNOOOW!" video with a link would be good enough. It doesn't need an entire section, but it definitely deserves to be mentioned.
- Any suggestions fromy anyone on where to add it? It doesn't seem to look right if we put it under personal life. 49erInOregon 13:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- I put it under "career" in 2004. Paragraph mention, with link. Done and done.«»bd(talk stalk) 16:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Heart attack vs stroke?
[edit]I don't think wrestlingzone.com is a reliable source for Luger's current malady. Could we get a verified citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.112.28 (talk) 15:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Tampa Bay Devil Rays? Australian football?
[edit]I'm trying to fix this page yet I'm curious about a statement in the early life section. The line reads: Upon leaving Miami, he played professional football for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of the Australian Football League. Unless I'm missing something, Tampa Bay is not in Australia and the Devil Rays are a baseball team. Is this simply a different team with the same name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.168.42 (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Picture
[edit]Is there a better picture because it is not the clearest. Any subsitutes would be better than the current picture. Mr. C.C. (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Personal life
[edit]ok not sure if this has been posted or not but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrHmDnp7Pps
if you want to edit, do it, this is not really my scene. Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by JanDaMan (talk • contribs) 01:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Attitude Adjustment?
[edit]When was the "Attitude Adjustment" Luger's finisher? I asked some fans that watch wrestling for a very long time, and they only remember Luger's finishers to be the Torture Rack, Powerslam, and Running Forearm. And IF he used a Piledriver for a finisher, are you sure that he called it the "Attitude Adjustment"? Would be weird, because Cena's finisher has got the same name. 79.204.92.112 (talk) 11:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Probably a little late, but here's proof of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp3b20DW7zM TheGary (talk) 01:34, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
American Football Career
[edit]Why does it not mention what position he played in football? It mentions what position he was to be moved to at PSU but not what position he played. An ESPN article mentions him playing Offensive Guard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.191.144.249 (talk) 14:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
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1991 WCW World Belt
[edit]The substitute belt that Luger was given in 1991 was the PWF World Heavyweight Belt that Dusty Rhodes had made in 1989 for his own Florida promotion. With Flair taking the NWA belts, they needed something in a hurry, and Dusty was booker and had this old belt, so they just covered over the PWF logos with WCW logos. It was clearly not the Western States Heritage title 2601:CD:C780:B119:91DE:8867:4992:C190 (talk) 02:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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