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Fails WP:NORG. No significant coverage. C F A 💬 23:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The article says almost nothing, the Google search results are all Wikipedia mirrors, and the listed website is defunct. It is not impossible that there are Farsi-language references; it seems unlikely at best and I don't know what to search for. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Psephos

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The article unfortunately doesn't meet WP:NCORP or WP:GNG I was unable to find anything in a google search. A few results came back in a Google Scholar search but all the result I could see were onty citations and therefore did not provide significant coverage on the topic. GMH Melbourne (talk) 23:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 23:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this non-notable archive of election results, it is mentioned in one source (duke University, seems to be a fragment of ??). In the EL's there is a link to the archive creator's personal blog. Cannot find enough to establish notability per GNG. Netherzone (talk) 00:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep this is used as a reference in at least 300 Wikipedia articles. [1] and [2] are library directories that refer to this source. The sourcing isn't as good as I would like, but my !vote is keep. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Psephos is only a marginally reliable source, due to Carr being a subject matter expert. I don't think it being used as a reference on Wikipedia is a good argument for keep, and neither is the fact that Psephos is in several libraries. Steelkamp (talk) 08:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kawaihae (band)

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Fails WP:NBAND. No significant coverage. C F A 💬 23:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete an unsourced article about a band from the 2000s (decade); most of the Google search results are about songs by Brother Noland, Israel Kamakawiwoʻole, etc and their website is broken. The Apple Music/Amazon search results suggest the band probably existed, but that isn't enough to keep the article Walsh90210 (talk) 01:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I wasn't able to find any coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Very obscure. toweli (talk) 09:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Tharwat

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Egyptian actor of dubious notability. Sole provided reference does not cover subject in depth, nothing better found in English, but better references may be available in Arabic. Possibly eligible for a G5 speedy because author has been blocked as a suspected sockpuppet, but taking to AfD on the off chance that evidence of notability can be found. --Finngall ^talk 22:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep the subject appears to pass WP:ENT because he “has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.” On the other hand sourcing isn’t great. There are a couple of other Mohamed Tharwats (not actors) and some of the sources about this one are chatty interviews but I found 1, 2 and 3 after a non-intensive search. Mccapra (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article is an unreferenced list of productions that he may or may not have acted in. Nothing would be lost be deleting, and if anyone ever wanted to write a real article about him with, y'know, sources, they could do that at any time. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:30, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to A Little Romance. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thelonious Bernard

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Article fails WP:NACTOR and WP:ANYBIO. He’s only appeared in one film. Although he was nominated for a Young Artist Award only once; #1 of ANYBIO states that “The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times” The Film Creator (talk) 22:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please don't delete the page for Thelonious Bernard. "A Little Romance" was so important to me when I was a 15-year-old and saw it in 1979. I'm sure a lot of us girls had a crush on this actor when we saw him perform with Diane Lane. He is an important part of American history. Really. Thank you. 2601:602:867F:8690:5BA2:7670:D9FE:1C75 (talk) 23:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to A Little Romance: Fails both NACTOR and GNG. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to A Little Romance. If there is any source other than IMDb, it would be good to explain his life in 1-2 sentences in the "Cast" section of that article. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jim Bray

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Fails WP:NACTOR because he’s only appeared in one film. The Film Creator (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – not at all relevant or useful, low quality article. Alon9393 (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unable to find any WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR is not met here either. Let'srun (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not going to !vote, but I must add that I saw the solo film he starred in and it’s gloriously bad, a true bomb that is a cult classic. Bearian (talk) 01:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - @Let'srun - A very simple Google search shows multiple scans of articles that were written about him. What kind of search were you doing that missed all of those? See: 1, 2 and 3. KatoKungLee (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lil Tony (Georgia rapper)

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. Could not find sources to establish either this or WP:ANYBIO. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Pitchfork and HIp Hop News are RS, we also have decent coverage in [3]. Not much coverage, but that's three sources and more than most articles we see in AfD Oaktree b (talk) 14:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b Pitchfork and HipHop News are definitely reliable sources, but they do not provide the relevant significant coverage that we're looking out for. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Hip Hop Canada link I added above adds context, with the three, I think we have musical notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I respect your stand, by the way :) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. I don't think Oaktree's sources add up to enough coverage to call this a WP:GNG pass. -- asilvering (talk) 20:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep per Oaktree. The notability isn't great, but it is (probably) sufficient. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per Oaktree b. There's also this article by BroadwayWorld, and it's worth noting that the rapper is signed to Priority Records. Admittedly, it seems to be a borderline case of notability. Mooonswimmer 16:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Olivia McIsaac

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Fails WP:NSKATE; no significant coverage. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep: The InsideHalton article already in the article, combined with [[4]] each provide WP:SIGCOV about the subject which allows for the WP:GNG to be met. Let'srun (talk) 13:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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John Gramlick

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Fails WP:NBASIC. No significant coverage. C F A 💬 22:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Nothing that supports its own article, the relevant information about the subject is the competition created by him. Svartner (talk) 00:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: not enough coverage to establish notablity for a standalone article. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 08:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Challenge Cup (Austria-Hungary), @Svartner and Vestrian24Bio: The article for the Challenge Cup seems maybe to be an important part of the history of football for the region, although severely under-sourced. My recommendation would a redirect to the article, as he is mentioned there and it's pretty much already whats on this article. Your thoughts? Regards, Govvy (talk) 14:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnathan Davis (businessman)

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All the references listed are about businesses and organizations that they were apart of and not about the person themselves and I can't find any other coverage about them. Does not pass WP:NBUSINESSPERSON or WP:ANYBIO. Propose to redirect to Newsweek. cyberdog958^Talk 23:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The reference Meet The Mysterious Duo Who Just Bought Newsweek is a profile of Davis, as is Faith and a media icon: Newsweek's unconventional new owners (which is characterized here as "a lengthy profile of IBT founder Johnathan Davis". --The Cunctator (talk) 13:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t think I would consider this source a profile of Davis as it’s more about his business partners along with most of the other references on the page. The second source is more promising but I don’t think that one source is enough to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. cyberdog958^Talk 19:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Newsweek, and add in there anything that seems vital. I don't see enough independent sources for GNG and I don't think we can rely primarily on Newsweek itself as a source. If, in the future, there is more written about him then an article would make sense. Lamona (talk) 05:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Newsweek, and possibly a selective merge. There’s just not enough coverage in sources independent of him, about him, except for a couple of stories about lawsuits he’s been involved with. Bearian (talk) 01:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Isla Ñ Rum

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No indication of GNG notability. C F A 💬 22:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maitland Telephone Museum

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Fails WP:NORG. Couldn't find any significant coverage. I suggest a redirect to Maitland Historical Museum. C F A 💬 21:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge together with the historical museum referenced in the nom to Art and History Museums - Maitland (red link will be fixed shortly). Neither has standalone notability per sourcing I've found and can be amply covered in the soon to be target article. Star Mississippi 21:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now exists. I think it meets N:ORG regardless of how this closes, but it makes sense as a target. Star Mississippi 22:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of college football coaches with 30 seasons

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There doesn't appear to be the needed WP:SIGCOV covering this particular grouping to meet the WP:NLIST. Let'srun (talk) 20:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Unlike the other coaching lists recently nominated (e.g., coaches with zero wins, most ties, etc.), the topic of longest-serving head coaches does have some sources on topic. E.g., Longest-serving college football coaches. Cbl62 (talk) 23:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Agreed with Cbl62, BEFORE searches identify enough articles on the subject of long-serving coaches to meet GNG, even if there is arbitrariness to the choice of a 30-year cutoff. (As an aside, columns showing teams and divisions would really help this article). Aspirex (talk) 21:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the general topic of "longest-serving head coaches" is regularly discussed in news outlets etc; the "30 seasons" cutoff is not but there is an editorial need to have some limit to the list. There is no need to ref-bomb the article, as it is largely statistical in nature. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of college football coaches with 100 losses

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Not finding the needed WP:SIGCOV from reliable secondary sources covering this grouping to meet the WP:LISTN. The best I could find is [[5]]. Let'srun (talk) 20:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Side comment that the title might be better as something like "List of college football career ~~wins~~ leaders". Unless it's deemed some magic number in sources, cutoff criteria should rarely be in titles. Per WP:LISTNAME:
Many lists are not intended to contain every possible member, but this does not need to be explained in the title itself ... the detailed criteria for inclusion should be described in the lead, and a reasonably concise title should be chosen for the list.
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@Bagumba: the list you speak of appears to exist at List of college football career coaching wins leaders. Perhaps this one should be merged/redirected into that one. Left guide (talk) 06:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I meant "List of college football career losses leaders". —Bagumba (talk) 06:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do think loss leaders on its own would be a notable list, but, I'd expect all of the significant loss leaders to already be included in the win list. You don't typically lose for a long long time without getting fired, but mildly successful coaches can hand around a while and rack up some stats. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can also rack up a huge number of losses by being a coach for a long time at a small school that's not really focused on football and that can't really afford a higher caliber coach, so they just keep losing season after season but do nothing about it. 129.7.55.20 (talk) 04:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Faliyu (housing)

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No significant coverage of the topic. Article at present is just a dictionary definition. C F A 💬 21:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete seems to be a WP:DICTDEF of the Gujarati word for "neighborhood". No sources, and a cursory search for "ફળિયું" (Gujarati) found nothing. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AccessPay

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Fails WP:ORGCRIT. All sources I have located are examples of WP:ORGTRIV. Appears to have been created by a single-purpose account for promo. AusLondonder (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete lacks sufficient evidence of notability, including independent, reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage of the company--Loewstisch (talk) 09:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Withdrawn‎ by the nominator. (non-admin closure) LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 21:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump International Golf Club shooting

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No notability (fails WP:NEVENT), no injuries. Could redirect to Trump International Golf Club if a section is made. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 21:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn, I was unaware (or inattentive) of the current merge proposal. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 21:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hamdan Dammag

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No indication of notability per WP:BIO or WP:NAUTHOR. Notability is not inherited from a famous parent. I am unable to find multiple reliable sources discussing the individual in a significant way. The article was also possibly written by the subject himself. ... discospinster _talk 20:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jungle Fever 2: Primal Fury

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I initially PRODed this article with the following rationale: "Non-notable series. The article is completely unsourced, and searches did not turn up any kind of coverage in reliable sources at all. The only biggest claim to notability in the article is winning a non-notable award. Fails the WP:GNG." It was later de-proded with the reasoning of "At least consider a redirect, this being a sequel". However, I can find no article on the film that this series is a sequel to, so there is no eligible Redirect target that I can come up with. So, I am sending it to AFD with the same rationale as the original PROD. Rorshacma (talk) 20:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. In fact, I did not find anything about the two movies online. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; it is unclear what it is a sequel to. The only Google search result is a webcomic forum that has broken Youtube links. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence of the article says it's a sequel to 48Hours. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz No, 48Hours is the film jam in which the first film was created. Aaron Liu (talk) 11:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, 48Hours is a New Zealand short film competition that the original movie was created for, not the name of the first movie. This article later states that the original film was just called "Jungle Fever" (which, of course, is unrelated to the actual theatrical Jungle Fever film). Also, despite this article claiming that the original was an "award winning" 48hours film, it is not listed on the competition's article as having won anything. Rorshacma (talk) 14:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and other commenters. There’s next to nothing about this movie or the movie it is a sequel to online and even the few crappy sources that do exist disagree on what it is, with some calling it a movie and others a TV series. The article itself is also of very poor quality and seems to have been at least partly copy pasted from its short themoviedb.org entry. Archimedes157 (talk) 15:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dog poop (disambiguation)

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An unnecessary disambiguation page. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to Dog shit, which could have a {{lookfrom|Dog poop}} at the bottom. – sgeureka ^t•c 21:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All Progressive Youth Association

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Google scholar has no sources and neither does the Turkish article Chidgk1 (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Seems to fail WP:GNG, I was only able to find passing mentions in Bianet. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete no sources at all. Xegma(talk) 18:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - again, lack of references is not on its own a criteria for deletion. The article as it exist right now doesn't fully explain the nature of the group. TÜM-İGD is the youth wing of the TKP (1920) (ex Ürün Sosyalist Dergi [tr], one of the main remnants of the old Communist Party of Turkey and as such, unrelated to the current Communist Party of Turkey). It's a nationwide movement, that is notable in its own right. I note material on 2012 May Day, 2010 YÖK action (the Bianet coverage mentioned above would have been for https://bianet.org/haber/students-take-the-streets-on-30th-anniversary-of-yok-133750 for 2011 protest presumably). Here coverage in Yeni Dünya, here coverage on 2006 protests in Hurriyet, Evrensel, Milliyet, Cumhuriyet, Yeni Safak, etc, etc. Most of coverage is coverage on various protests of the group over the past years. --Soman (talk) 18:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ICL 20s World Series 2008–09

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Not enough coverage on reliable independent sources; Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's also the following with the same condition...

ICL 20-20 Indian Championship 2008–09 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
ICL 20-20 Indian Championship 2007–08 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
ICL 20s Grand Championship 2007–08 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
ICL 20s World Series 2007–08 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Montreux Declaration

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As the arrested people were all released after a few days I cannot see how this is significant enough to deserve an article. As an alternative to deletion as it is so short this unsourced article could be merged into the treaty article. Although there is no Turkish article I think if it was merged enough sources could be found for at least a few sentences. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ah I have now found the Turkish article and linked it Chidgk1 (talk) 17:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah the Turkish discussion voted to keep so if properly sourced maybe it should be kept per https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipedi:Silinmeye_aday_sayfalar/103_emekli_amiral_bildirisi ? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Full disclosure, I wrote the article. I do understand why not being ref'd would be a ref flag for deletion, yes. And thanks for delving in the the Turkish Wikipeda. But hear me out.

It was a somewhat significant event in modern Turkish history, and not a one-day wonder. Ten or fifty or a hundred years from now some non-zero number of people reading Turkish history are going to see it mentioned and want to know more. (And remember, we ought to try to be global and work against (natural) bias against foreign events.)

It doesn't matter if the people were released in a few days. The hearing was publized and acquitals can be notable.

It's short, but reasonable size for an article. We have a lot of articles that short. And it can be expanded somewhat.

Yeah there are no refs and I marked it such so that other editors could add them. There are sources (I didn't make any of the material up). Not adding them was an uncharacteristic lazy lapse on my part, to leave the work to others, I never do that and I don't remember why I did here. And I can see why no refs would be a red flag for the article not being worthwhile. Still, for deletion, it is not supposed to much matter if an article has refs but whether it can have refs with reasonable effort.

A rule of thumb is that if an article meets the WP:GNG that's an indication (not proof, granted) that the article might well be worth keeping. GNG wants in-depth coverage from multiple reliable, neutralish, and reasonably notable sources. Here's a full article from Associated Press, Here's a full article from Bianet, Here's a full article from Hurriyet Daily News. There're more, and that's just the English articles.

Pretty close to case closed I would think?

(Also, a gentle reminder, you are supposed to do WP:BEFORE before nomination, and I guess you didn't cos I found these quickly in Google. I know, I know, many nominators also don't do it, but IMO they really ought to to save us all time and not have worthwhile articles sometimes deleted. I understand, but hopefully a learning experience here?) Herostratus (talk) 18:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: per Herostratus. Notable event with implications spanning a significant time horizon. Plenty of sources exist. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 01:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aniq Raushan

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 5 games in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aiman Zavyan

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 298 minutes in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hariysh Krishnakumar

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 168 minutes in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 00:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shahrulnizam Mazlan

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Failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 10 games in Singapore. Geschichte (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Melikşah Üniversitesi S.K.

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I searched but this does not seem to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 17:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Greek exonyms in Turkey

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I can see someone has put a lot of work in here but it has been tagged unsourced for a long time, so as someone who cannot speak Greek how would I know if it is true? If this is notable why is there no list on Greek or Turkish Wikipedia? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely original research; even if totally accurate, it would require WP:TNT and a rewrite with sourcing. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:14, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete obviously it's a copy paste from a page like this. There are many such pages of dubious validity circulating on the Greek internet. Pallikari ap' ta Sfakia 17:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Procedural close, speedy keep‎. Malformed nomination per my comment within. With no easily discernible nomination rationale (thus inability to attract editors to form any meaningful consensus), the nomination also has all the appearance of a tit for tat nomination. No prejudice against a well formed, policy rationale based nomination at any time, even immediately. (non-admin closure) 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ada-George Road

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Why the page should be deleted Cfaso2000 (talk) 16:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The subject lacks coverage in independent sources. Only one article with a headline referencing Ada-George road was provided. This doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's GNG. Reference 1 merely mentioned the subject; Ref 2, a 189-word news article mentioned a robbery incident on Ada George Road and didn't cover the road in and of itself; Ref 3 Ada-George was mentioned twice but was not the subject of the article or its content; Ref 4 is about the flagging off of the River's 12th Flyover, located on Ada George. This doesn't confer notability. There's more coverage of the 12th Flyover, than the Ada-George Road. Both are not one and the same." Cfaso2000 (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment : A geographic features does not need an independent source to survive as long as they are from reliable source especially on places that are populated by humans. Go and read Notability on Geographic features and what Independent source is all about. Independent source was never mentioned because the government cannot pay the news to talk about a place. Now go and read this Newspaper even tho it wasn’t listed on the article. Further more, Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can be notable, because notability encompasses their entire history. Go and read WP:GEOFEAT. A lot I can tell you per Wikipedia guideline but I feel this is enough for you to pick up from there. I live in Port Harcourt for 5 years and schooled there before I left and thought of writing about it’s place and taken beautiful pictures, that is how I also came about Choba, Port Harcourt and also took the picture you can see there because Wikipedia is knowledge.--Gabriel (……?) 18:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Topic notability for county roads, regional roads (such as Ireland's regional roads), local roads, streets and motorway service areas may vary, and may be notable if they satisfy the WP:GNG criteria". This is found in WP: GEOFEAT. Ada-George Road has not had wide coverage in secondary sources, and there are only minor mentions of it in news sources you provided. Are there any notable history behind this road? Provide sources please. As it stands, it fails GNG. Cfaso2000 (talk) 19:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From your contribution so far aside from this AFD it’s just a waste of time communicating with you. Until you are familiar and understood the guidelines. I will rather channel that energy to something more reasonable to communicate with except you wanna learn about Wikipedia from me. Read before you throw out lines. Ada-George has nothing to do with County roads, regional roads, local roads, streets or a motor service area. It it’s a town popular known as Ada-George Road. Do you read or you just pop out explanation?. I have check the county road article and the regional road article the images over there has nothing to do with Ada-George. In Ada-George they are houses over there and street because it’s a town but in those article you provide the images shows no houses but a county road that is why they need enough coverage than just a place that is legally recognized. County roads and streets are not legally recognized. For example, Rigasa Railway Station is not a town or a community it’s just like a motorway service area of which you just mention. So it needs enough coverage from reliable source to satisfy WP:GNG. You get my point?. You said There's more coverage of the 12th Flyover, than the Ada-George Road. it is not popular called the 12th flyover but the Ada-George fly over. The Ada-George has being in existence before the fly over and I just pop out a newspaper for you which was published 13 years ago of when the Ada-George was in construction without the flyover to proof it has been in existence. Have a nice day. This is enough explanation for you and I’m ending it here. Cheers. Gabriel (……?) 20:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Close: I am finding this AfD difficult to understand. I do not see a deletion rationale. I suggest a procedural close with no obstacle to re-nomination, even in as short a time period as "immediately" if a policy based rationale is provided. This appears to be a dispute between two editors rather than a real deletion discussion 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ankit Jain

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Doesn't meet WP:NPOL as an election candidate, fails WP:NBASIC otherwise. C F A 💬 16:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, the election is uncontested (Green Party didn't field a nominee) and less than a month away. The position of Shadow Senator is a federal position, equivalent to a senator. There's also a decent amount of coverage already [6][7][8] Microplastic Consumer (talk) 17:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not denying they would meet NPOL if elected, but they don't right now. Routine election coverage of candidates is expected and doesn't really count towards anything. I would support a draftification that can be reverted if they win, but right now they are not notable. C F A 💬 17:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the coverage is decent as is, what reason is there to get rid of the article of a person who has a 99.9999% chance of being elected into office just before an election? Microplastic Consumer (talk) 18:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or draftify per nom (lean draftify IMO). I've talked with the page creator about WP:NPOL already, including a bit about how a candidate's article was not put into mainspace until he actually won the election. Right now, on the page, there are four sources, two are routine coverage, one is an endorsement, and one is Wikipedia:BALLOTPEDIA. Searching on Google doesn't yield much that can be added. They don't seem to pass NPOL or WP:GNG until he actually wins the election. reppop^talk 19:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also wouldn't be opposed to draftifying the article until November. Bkissin (talk) 20:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2024 United States Shadow Senator election in the District of Columbia for now. Recreate when he wins in November. WP:NOTCRYSTAL, things happen between now and election day and as of right now Jain remains an unelected private citizen. Bkissin (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aqua Security

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Does not meet WP:NORG: the article is entirely a list of acquisitions and funding rounds, referenced to trivial coverage ("inclusion in lists of similar organizations" and "of the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business"). No significant coverage. Dan • ✉ 22:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Article really is littered with funding rounds. No coverage exclusively to the company in sources. Niashervin (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep The company is a notable player in the cybersecurity industry, particularly in cloud-native security. Aqua Security has significant media coverage from reputable sources like Bloomberg, TechCrunch, and The Wall Street Journal --Loewstisch (talk) 10:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The citations to Bloomberg are directory information. They do not indicate a WP:CORP that is distinguishable from all other cyber security firms worldwide. Being a financially successful corporation does not a notable one maketh. Ventric (talk) 13:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I totally agree about Bloomberg, as it is just a directory. Loewstisch (talk) 08:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As to the other references you mentioned - the Techcrunch articles are regurgitated PR on funding rounds with no "Independent Content" as required by ORGIND. The WSJ articles - one has a quote from a company exec, no in-depth information about the company as required by CORPDEPTH, the other is another rehash of a funding announcement, fails ORGIND. None meet GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability.

Keep as the company is well-covered in specific business and security literature (per my additional WP before search), such as books on DevOps, Kubernetes, containerized applications, and cloud security. The page and its sources are also about software. Some security-industry guidebooks also heavily analyze various Aqua software tools, including Trivy and Kube-hunter. --美しい歌 (talk) 10:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit simply added three book titles to a new section, and did not connect these references to the prose or explain their relevance. Of the three, Rice (2020) is partially written by company representatives and is not a reliable source: "this work is part of a collaboration between O'Reilly and Aqua Security" (p. ii), Binnie & McCune (2021) is unavailable on Google Books so I can't confirm a reference to the article subject, and Aversa (2023) simply makes passing references for how to use Aqua Security products, but does not demonstrate any notability whatsoever. Dan • ✉ 12:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I was not solely referring to those books, as there are many more. I agree that Rice (2020) is not an independent source. However, Cloud Native Security devotes a significant portion to the software, while Aversa's book covers the software side of Aqua Security in depth, including descriptions of various software structures, acquisitions, and principles. 美しい歌 (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because the majority of coverage is comprised of trivial mentions. If it were kept, it would require a sharp reduction in content because it reads as WP:ADS - it is largely self-promo content. However, the lack of specific coverage and the inclusion in "who-to-watch" lists and whatnot does not comprise notability. CapnPhantasm (talk) 15:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the sources are mainly about routine investment rounds, but not all of them. Some Hebrew sources, as well as a few U.S. ones, offer sufficient and independent coverage. The company passes ORG notability threshold ג'ימיהחיה (talk) 11:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources specifically? Also, the *content* has to be in-depth and Independent, it isn't just the fact that the publisher is independent of the company. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reliable coverage in many sources - both books, Israel tech media and industry focused news sites. --Mind-blowing blow (talk) 07:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give an example? The only non-trivial reference in the article appears to be that of the The New Stack article; the rest of the references are completely trivial funding drivel. A Google News search likewise finds no relevant reliable sources. Dan • ✉ 00:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as meeting NCORP. All deletes claim that the article is imperfect: this is true however AFDISNOTCLEANUP. So weak arguments for deletion. gidonb (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/move to draft space, the article was almost certainly created by the company itself and is almost entirely based on poor quality sources. I've removed the most egregious claims/sources and what remains is "a list of acquisitions and funding rounds" as stated by the nominator. While a stub article could probably be created from reliable sources, it does not seem fair to allow a "$1 billion dollar" company's marketing department to create work for volunteers. The article should be created via the WP:AFC process instead of allowing a COI article to be created directly in mainspace without repercussions. Brandon (talk) 14:20, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom, clearly fails WP:GNG, WP:NCORP Youknow? (talk) 06:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete None of the sources meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 13:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NCORP,WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND and WP:SIRS. Its looks and reads like UPE advert article and still has an acquisitions list like its 2008 and consists of funding news and hosting requirements. I can go through the references, the first block if need be. scope_creep^Talk 18:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kardeşlerim

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I don’t understand how this could get past the new page patrol without sources. Or is the iMDB entry enough for them? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The tr.wiki article has twenty sources. Mccapra (talk) 17:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Coverage exists; awards and nominations mentioned in TkWp page, for example, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hatay, Konak

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Tagged unsourced in 2009 and does not seem to be notable. Konak article exists so maybe this one not needed Chidgk1 (talk) 16:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy keep: See [9], [10] for instance, but even without these, it should be speedily kept based on WP:NTOWN. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 01:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So is ‘’semt’’ still a legally recognized subdivision of “ilçe”?Chidgk1 (talk) 05:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of a "semt" can be informal, but Hatay in İzmir as a city center is well-recognized even if it does not have official boundaries. The Konak municipality has a center there, public transit stations, events, etc... Within the "semt", there are lots of officially recognized "mahalle"s, each of which can have their own articles, according to WP:NTOWN. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 06:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So I can create an article about any “mahalle” I like without any sources at all? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gaziosmanpaşaspor

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Talk page suggests it be considered for deletion Chidgk1 (talk) 16:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, no reason to delete. Third-level club with lots of coverage during many years. Geschichte (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Geschichte, needs improving not deleting. Giant Snowman 18:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per Geschichte. Svartner (talk) 00:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably keep Although I find it a little odd I wasn't so good at finding the best sources, but again just because there are no sources on an article, doesn't mean they don't exist. Perfect example of WP:NEXIST. Govvy (talk) 14:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Lessard

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As researcher not notable; books are not helping with notability either. No reliable sources. Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 16:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - meets GNG based on significant coverage in three news articles that are about him and his work, and three book reviews on his work in peer-reviewed academic journals. Netherzone (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep as above. For me, three reviews of coauthored books would be borderline for WP:AUTHOR, but the profiles of him in national media are enough for WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fırat University Faculty of Veterinary Medicine

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As we already have an article for the uni why do we need this unsourced article? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as it seems like text page or draft --Loewstisch (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lightmatter

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Trivial media mentions - CV like page with no deep coverage Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 16:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Faculty of Medicine, ÇOMÜ

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We already have an article for the university. This article tells the reader mostly just what they would find more reliably on the uni website Chidgk1 (talk) 16:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeremy Reiter

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Unlikely to pass GNG and anybio. Not enough substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources; Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 16:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep - meets criteria #5 of WP:NACADEMIC as holding a named chair position, the Albert Bowers Endowed Chair. Additionally has an h-index of 59, his work has been cited over 16,000 times by others; and he has won quite a few notable awards. Note to nominator: WP:ANYBIO states that Many scientists, researchers, philosophers and other scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. Netherzone (talk) 17:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC) Modifying my iVote, I agree that Speedy is in order. Netherzone (talk) 00:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. Citation record looks like a plausible pass of WP:NPROF C1, even in a higher citation field, and I think that the endowed chair passes WP:NPROF C5. Speedy since the nominator did not consider the correct notability criterion. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per Russ Woodroofe; the correct notability guideline was not consulted, and when consulted, it is passed. XOR'easter (talk) 20:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep as above. The nominator might like to withdraw this mistaken nomination. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Dorian (Turkish band)

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“D&R” is a shop (which sells records among other things) so I am not sure that source in the Turkish article is enough to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 16:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WebID Solutions

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Likely not notable company that does not fulfill NCORP guidelines; poor sources Once upon a daylight dreary (talk) 16:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Clearly meets WP:NCORP due to verifiable significant coverage in major, notable German newspapers over a period of years. I cannot understand why the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, the Rheinische Post, the Wirtschaftswoche, Der Tagesspiegel, Handelsblatt, Börsen-Zeitung and others would be considered "poor sources" by the nominator; please explain the rationale for that assessment. Netherzone (talk) 19:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ayten Sokak

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The article says the street is notable but it has no sources and there is no Turkish article Chidgk1 (talk) 16:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adile Mermerci Anatolian High School

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I did a search and although there are one or two good sources such as https://avesis.yildiz.edu.tr/yayin/dde9fb67-9c04-4dba-9bea-b6873f25805c/the-comparative-analyzes-of-the-students-performance-about-matrix-in-student-selection-exam-oss-and-the-approved-lecture-books-of-ministry-for-the-national-education-meb I did not find enough to show that it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2016–17 Turkish Cup

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There is certainly a lot of numerical data here but unfortunately the only reference is one of the regulations not the scores Chidgk1 (talk) 16:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, highly notable. Do you know what the Turkish cup is? Geschichte (talk) 17:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know what the Turkish Cup is but the article on it is a reasonable size, so I cannot see the point of keeping this article as the scores in it are not sourced Chidgk1 (talk) 04:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - the national cup competition in Turkey, clearly notable - nominator has not done a BEFORE. Giant Snowman 18:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly the Turkish Cup is notable and that article already has many stats including scores in the finals Chidgk1 (talk) 04:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Passes on WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 00:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Snow keep Really now, like GS said, just do a WP:BEFORE, yes the article lacks sources, but that by no means does not make it a notable competition. Govvy (talk) 10:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Govvy Finding a source for the preliminary, 1, 2 and 3 rounds and checking it against the article might be easy for you but it is not for me Chidgk1 (talk) 11:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What are you wanting exactly? You can mirror the scores, like this one with soccerway, that can be used as a citation for stats, then you have sources like tntsport, [11]. There are Turkish news services which I don't use where you can also pick sources from, but sorry Chidgk1, I feel this is a bad nomination and not thought out. Regards. Govvy (talk) 12:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2014 İstanbul Cup – Singles

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The only reference is the draw and the article was tagged re missing cites ten years ago. So is the reader just supposed to trust the Wikipedia editor for the scores? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I've fixed the references using the links from the WTA website [12]. If there's an issue with referencing, please look for sources yourself and try to have a go at fixing it yourself instead of taking the page straight to AfD and expecting everyone else to fix things on a timer. Related WikiProjects can help out if you're not familiar with a particular subject matter. Iffy★Chat -- 09:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for the reasons given by Iffy above. Agree also that taking the page straight to AfD is making a mountain out of a molehill. Yimingbao (talk) 10:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2015 in Turkish television

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Tagged 8 years ago as unsourced it would be too time consuming for a reader to check if this is correct or not. I checked a couple of things and found them wrong (2 shows mentioned as still running have apparently ended). Chidgk1 (talk) 16:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ilgar Ibrahimoglu

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An article with no encyclopedic value and for PR purposes only. Redivy (talk) 15:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Is this the same Ilgar Ibrahimoglu who was the subject of coverage about his detention in Azerbaijan? [13] [14] [15] This might contribute to notability. LizardJr8 (talk) 22:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2009 İstanbul Cup – Doubles

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As the external link only shows the draw the scores might just be a figment of the writers imagination Chidgk1 (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep For the same reasons as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 İstanbul Cup – Singles, this page is now fixed too. Iffy★Chat -- 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Smith (entrepreneur)

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Aside from interviews, sources are about Scribe (company), not the subject of the article herself. Brandon (talk) 15:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chocamine

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Sources don't establish notability, can't find any that do. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 14:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: [16], [17], it's got some coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 14:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A self-published book and a mention in a directory? Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oleksandr Pshenychnyuk

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New sources are either from the league in which he plays or are basic WP:ROUTINE coverage about a specific game with no meaningful coverage of the player himself. This is not WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 15:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new sources (sport.ua/2024-09-14, ua-football.com/2024-09-15) have nothing to do with the league (UPL) in which Pshenychnyuk plays, and imho they are not something like WP:ROUTINE coverage. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I've reviewed the new sources and none of them show significant coverage. Sport.ua confirms that he scored his first goal and that he is a midfielder but the rest is pure Q&A with no independent analysis. UA-Football confirms his age and number of appearances and then copies and pastes the same Q&A from the previous source, so is also not sufficient. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the most important thing about a source according to WP:SIGCOV is not evidence of notability, but rather sufficient and significant coverage on the topic. Imho the source provides it. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 08:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The source provides information about the importance of the goal scored by the player. In addition, there is information about the player's technical skills that he used to score. The article also provides statistical information about the player. The importance of the victory the team acquired through the player's goal is also mentioned. In my opinion the source presents a compact but good analysis that can be considered as significant coverage. Adding the other two sources (sport.ua/2024-09-14, ua-football.com/2024-09-15) to the source gives, in my opinion, sufficient and significant coverage here. Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 19:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing deeply insufficient for GNG. Routine match reports never count towards notability, and that is definitely what the handful of sources here are. JoelleJay (talk) 23:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – If the creator Web-wiki-warrior agree to submit this time. I see good faith in the creation of the article, but the notability of the sources still raises doubts. Svartner (talk) 00:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not necessarily questioning good faith here, as it's certainly not bad faith, but the creator's understanding of what is significant and meaningful coverage is deeply, deeply flawed, and this has been shown over several articles/AfDs now. I think submission should be an absolute minimum for any kind of draftification. Anwegmann (talk) 03:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide an example of what you think is sufficient and significant coverage when it comes to an wikipedia article about a football player. 80.149.46.228 (talk) 08:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See this example of significant coverage for Leah Williamson. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General question: Is an interview (for example at least for 30 Minutes) with the football player that was published as a YouTube video considered as sufficient and significant coverage? Web-wiki-warrior (talk) 08:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Barlow

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Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC and WP:SIGCOV. A player who only played in a single game is not notable, and does not have in-depth enough coverage to pass our notability guidelines. 4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Has not been the subject of significant coverage; not suprising as records show only played one game. As suggested, fails WP:SPORTBASIC. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 22:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Rias Gremory

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Character appears to fail standalone notability, and much of the article seems to fall under WP:FANCRUFT. The vast majority of the article is unsourced aside from primary references to episodes of the anime, and almost all the secondary references are only in the "reception" section. Almost none of these references meet WP:SIGCOV: 1 only briefly covers Highschool DxD, and is mostly about Jamie Marchi, 2 is primary, 3-23 are WP:USERG, and 24-29 are just describing merchandise, and most of them are USERG. 30 is the only reference that may be a reliable secondary source, but the article does not give significant coverage to Rias, and her cosplay is not ranked particularly high. Almost nothing about Rias appears on Google Scholar, nothing at all on JSTOR, and Google News only contains trivial mentions of Highschool DxD in general, and almost none of them are specific to Rias. The article overall reads like something from a Highschool DxD fan wiki, and Rias seems to lack any standalone notability. This article should be merged into List of High School DxD characters in a greatly abridged form. Masskito (talk)

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Thushara Perera

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Fails WP:NACADEMIC. Potentially notable, but fairly low record of achievement. scope_creep^Talk 14:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Pieve. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of pievi

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The contents look like a disambiguation page, yet none of these entries would be known under the name "Pieve" alone, so no disambiguation is required.

The name suggests it's a list of pievi. However, pievi were very numerous, and this list would be woefully incomplete if this is the goal. I don't think it's feasible or necessary for Wikipedia to have a list of pievi.

The descriptions refer to the present-day non-ecclesiastical administrative territorial entities named after these historic no-longer extant and non-notable ecclesiastical administrative territorial entities. A minority of the listed articles do describe the history of the related pievi, eg. Città della Pieve#History and Pieve di Cento#History. Daask (talk) 13:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment An option that I didn't consider in my proposal is a merge to Pieve in a new section "Toponyms", as I see has been done in some other language Wikipedias, eg br:Pieve#Lec'hioù. Daask (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Pieve as suggested above by the nominator, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Pieve per above. – sgeureka ^t•c 21:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Pieve - it seems reasonable to include the list of wiki articles there, even if it is incomplete. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anjum Sharma

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WP:REFBOMB doesn't help matters and this draft doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. A recurring character in a film doesn't sometimes show notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: at least 2 significant roles in notable productions so that deletion is not necessary in my opinion. Trimming of references is a cleanup issue. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What roles? It is absolutely not close to meeting WP:NACTOR since there isn't any significant coverage about this person. If you really think trimming is the problem, then do it, because I see non notability and less clean up issue. We are arguing about meeting our general notability guidelines and how the content matches with the sources. Additionally, having two significant roles isn't the problem because it's less of WP:NACTOR, which is a ~~an essay~~ guide to help us in knowing how possible can a person be notable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an essay it's a policy guideline as it states at top of the page, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it is a guideline. As for If you really think trimming is the problem, then do it, that's asked so kindly, thank you, but I am not the one who sees an issue here. As for what the roles are, at least roles in the recurring cast in Mizapur and in the main cast of Sultan of Delhi. For the rest, the guideline is clear but I am not sure I understand what you say. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep notable person, yes it's need to cleanup references. Xegma(talk) 17:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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TikTok Dabloons

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In my opinion- this article survived its last deletion discussion based more on rule technicalities rather than TikTok dabloons genuinely warranting an article. The article is essentially just "A bunch of TikTok users made up and joked about a fictional currency based on a funny internet image of a cat for 1-2 months"- hardly different from a Know Your Meme article covering any other similar brief trend.

The thin argument that this article could be considered significant is carried by the fact that the NYT, Verge, Mashable and Guardian all happened to cover the Dabloons meme during its 15 minutes of fame. As time has passed, there has been no sustained coverage and this article remains a stub. I think a deletion discussion should be revived- at best merge it into list of Internet phenomena Uelly (talk) 14:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Coverage last time was fine. I don't see anything past 2022 [18]. The world has moved on, but it was notable a few years ago. Seems to be a fad that came and went. Oaktree b (talk) 15:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, seems to be a classic case of WP:NOTNEWS. Just because sources exist doesn't mean this a notable subject, looks like it would easily fail WP:10YT. There has been no notable coverage since 2022. Esolo5002 (talk) 18:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Flash in the pan meme that fails WP:SUSTAINED and WP:NOTNEWS. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:33, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of mayors of Barboursville, West Virginia

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A mostly unsourced and thus unverifiable list of non-notable mayors of a "village". Fails WP:NLIST. AusLondonder (talk) 12:30, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The list seems to be referenced by Ref 1 (HMdb.org), but still this appears to be a village of 4000 people with non-notable mayors. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: the nominator and second seem to be conflating the population of Barboursville with the notability of this list. The word "village" doesn't determine notability; populated places have generally been deemed notable, irrespective of their size. Additionally Barboursville is an incorporated municipality under the laws of West Virginia, and under West Virginia Code § 8-1-3 Barboursville has been a "class III city" since 1960, and would have been a "class IV town or village" before that. It was also the county seat from 1813 to 1888. As an incorporated municipality, a list of Barboursville's mayors is appropriate, and could be included in the article about Barboursville, without having to demonstrate their individual notability; here, the list has been split out into its own article, because it is fairly long, covering over two hundred years. As a separate issue, the city's own official publications are not independent, and therefore do not count toward establishing the significance, and thus notability of its individual mayors; but as official government publications they may be considered authoritative as to the names of the persons who held that position and at what points in time. I believe that better sources are available for most or all of the mayors, and will visit the library today to find out. P Aculeius (talk) 13:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not suggesting Barboursville itself is non-notable. I do on the other hand believe a list of all mayors of a relatively small locality is not notable. AusLondonder (talk) 14:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The list itself meets WP:LISTCRITERIA, the question is whether it should be a separate page or back in the city article. I view these pages as a valid page split (WP:SPLIT) as the content is verifiable, and could be included in the parent article, but because of the size of the content, does not always belong in the parent article. If the information was in the parent article, we would not be having this discussion about notablilty. --Enos733 (talk) 21:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I thought the list went back to the beginning, but it only seems to go back to the late 19th century. I did find some materials supporting this list at the public library in Barboursville, but only going back as far as this list does. They're not great sources, but they're published and available for review—anyone can go and check them. At least one was based on the same source listed here: the Barboursville monument with a list of mayors. That's not ideal, but public monuments should probably be treated as official statements by the city, subject to correction using better sources. I'll see about whether any of the other sources make sense to incorporate here. At worst, the list could perhaps be incorporated back into the article about Barboursville, but deletion does not make sense. P Aculeius (talk) 22:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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ThorVG

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Google News yield no result, This article sounds like an WP:PROMO for this. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 10:30, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have a few technical pages in my watch list and noticed that the user who created that page has edited adjacent pages, adding links to ThorVG in the see also sections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skia_Graphics_Engine&diff=prev&oldid=1244522445

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cairo_(graphics)&diff=prev&oldid=1244521334 CoderThomasB (talk) 05:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Miminity@CoderThomasB Hello, thank you for reviewing. This is one of the free open-source graphics projects run by a non-profit organization, made possible entirely through dedicated contributions from people around the world. I believe their efforts are well-deserved, just want to clarify the development history. I only added it to Skia/Cairo pages because it is good to know by people because it is closely aligned with the projects from a technical perspective. If you think it seems inappropriate by wiki policy, please let me know removing it again.

I'm having a hard time identifying the specific inappropriate points since I'm not fully enough familiar with wiki, I would appreciate it if you could point out the issues in the content. I just really hope to make it work. Thanks. Wuming421 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CoderThomasB Just googled: https://www.reddit.com/r/opengl/comments/18g9hc7/svgopengl_library_for_embedded_gpu/ Wuming421 (talk) 06:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reddit is not a reliable source see WP:REDDIT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CoderThomasB Please have a see how relevant it is among the technicians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/opengl/comments/18g9hc7/svgopengl_library_for_embedded_gpu/

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/x-org-drm/1369959-cairo-graphics-library-drops-opengl-support-after-a-decade-of-inactivity/page3

https://github.com/blend2d/blend2d/issues/3

https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxnextgen/comments/1cx5v00/the_end_of_an_era_gnu_dictatorship_no_more/ Wuming421 (talk) 06:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wuming421, you've already been told this but forums like reddit, discussion boards and social media are not reliable sources to establish notability or, really, any facts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I removed the links from Cairo/Skia. Is there any other issue with the ThorVG addition? Wuming421 (talk) 07:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide links from reliable sources of significant coverage of the subject. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, this is really the hardest part to understand, in addition a new page. Because In that same manner, I also couldn't find any reliable sources from Skia/Cairo pages and links in See Also sections. They really don't have any information about relationship each other in both pages. (though I know, they are fully related/comparative each others including thorvg, so makes sense to me.) Wuming421 (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Torontow

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Bit-part actor. scope_creep^Talk 14:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. He has played the title character in Sweeney Todd, among other major characters and has been nominated for Dora Awards both as a leading actor and a director. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: seems notable enough to me, given his stage career and existing sources. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

V/Vm Test Records

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Nominated by anon IP as: Non-notable record label, complete lack of sources and very little news coverage. Only two of the artists mentioned in the article mention V/Vm Test Records on their page, one of these artists is V/Vm himself. Violates WP:GNG. User:74.108.22.119. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge into V/Vm#V/Vm Test Records. ApexParagon (talk) 19:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into V/Vm § V/Vm Test Records, but selectively – without independent sources, statements like V/Vm Test Records were notable for their rebellious approach should be left behind. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A clear merge candidate. This didn't need to come to AfD. Chubbles (talk) 13:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaalam Raasina Kathalu

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Fails WP:NFILM. The film was moved to draft but recreated by another IP (likely the same person -- since it ia low budget film, WP:COI?)

The reason it was moved to draft is that all sources relate to Akash Puri releasing the film's trailer. This article shouldn't exist because the entire article is banking on the effect of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#Marketing.

This source shows Akash Puri being given flowers beforing watching the film's trailer on a laptop [19]. How is any of this notable?

Regarding Bru Times, the source is obviously unreliable and a compilation of many sources. Although you may think it is a review, it says Upon its release, "Kaalam Raasina Kathalu" received critical acclaim for its storytelling, direction, and performances. Critics praised the film for its nuanced portrayal of complex human emotions and the depth of its characters.

If you want to know wheter Bru Times is reliable read another review like [20], ("has been praised", etc.) prove it is unreliable. DareshMohan (talk) 07:57, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Telugu films of 2024 -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I just added so many reliable references such as News18 India, Eenadu, NTV (India), The Hans India, Sakshi (newspaper), and Zee News. I think it also meets WP:HEY. Jorge Crew (talk) 13:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NFILM. No reception or reviews. Sources are poor and mostly on the release event and one source by Bru Times is clearly unreliable that says it is a people's platform where anyone is free to write news and become a jounalist. There is no significant coverage and reviews in reliable independent secondary source. RangersRus (talk) 15:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nima Asgari

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Disputed draftification. I would have returned to draft, but WP:DRAFTIFY dictates that cannot happen, so here we are. Fails WP:NFILMMAKER. References are passing mentions that they have made such and such a film 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear @Timtrent, Thank you for your review. I would like to highlight that Nima Asgari is a well-known documentary filmmaker in Iran, recognized for his significant contributions to environmental and wildlife documentaries. He has won several prestigious awards at international festivals, such as the Jackson Hole Wildlife Film Festival in the USA and the Green Screen Film Festival in Germany. Additionally, he has served as a jury member at events like the Matsalu Nature Film Festival in Estonia. I have updated the article with reliable sources and references that showcase his notable achievements and contributions to the field.

I hope this additional information helps in reconsidering the decision regarding the article. Siavakhsh (talk) 17:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Despite the statement above, the additional references aren't at all useful. This is not a review. Reviews are different. This is a discussion leading to potential deletion. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Praveen Singh

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Praveen Singh does not meet the qualifications for a Wikipedia page, especially under the WP:NPOL notability guidelines. His role as a block pramukh lacks national significance and does not represent a state or province-level office in India. Note: This page is being nominated as part of an ongoing New Page Patrol (NPP) training exercise. Charlie (talk) 13:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Doesn't meet notability criteria. --Ratekreel (talk) 14:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Clearly fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG; the sources do not provide WP:SIGCOV. Best wishes to the nominator for NPP School. GrabUp - Talk 14:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I believe this article should be kept as Praveen Singh has been a notable political figure in Uttar Pradesh with significant contributions to regional politics, being a local i am aware he's going to contest for block elections in 2026 from Machhrehta Block. In case of India, the Panchayati Raj system still prevails and for Indians the block levels are really significant offices in government. IndianQuest (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@IndianQuest: Let him contest and win the Block-level election; only then can the article be recreated and retained. Currently, he does not meet the notability criteria according to Wikipedia’s guidelines. GrabUp - Talk 03:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GrabUp block level elections are insignificant. He must win either national elections (to become a Member of Parliament) or state-wide legislative elections (to become a Member of the Legislative Assembly). Charlie (talk) 03:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CharlieMehta: I thought Block-level elections meant MLA elections, as every MLA is elected from blocks in a district. GrabUp - Talk 04:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hierarchy is as follows: Gram Panchayat (village level), Block Panchayat (a group of Gram Panchayats at the intermediary level), and Zilla Panchayat (comprising several Block Panchayats). A constituency district typically includes at least one city municipal corporation, a few municipal councils, and several Zilla Panchayats. To represent the area, an MLA must be elected across the entire constituency. Charlie (talk) 05:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explaination😉 GrabUp - Talk 06:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes very well explained. So far he has only been contesting for block elections. IndianQuest (talk) 08:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per nom. Poor and unreliable sources from a personal self published youtube videos, Facebook and WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as politician is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. RangersRus (talk) 12:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

City News Los Angeles

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I cannot find any mention of this newspaper in any source. While obviously it did exist at one time (their website is archived on the Wayback Machine), the lack of any third-party coverage means that it clearly fails GNG. Pinguinn 🐧 13:23, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Satisfied with the last statement of article creator. (non-admin closure) Gabriel (……?) 09:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Ururuka

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During the time he was alive no news talked about him to pass WP:GNG. Now his dead a governor has to build a Statue of him in remembrance of his works in the construction of road which is the only significant coverage. That means during the times he was alive he wasn't important to the news to be talked about which fails notability on wikipedia but his well known to the Nigerian east politicians. Aside being remembered as the late Minister of Works due to his death. Theirs nothing else to proof notability. Gabriel (……?) 13:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This passes WP:NPOL. I’d advise the creator to add citations to sentences or remove them entirely. Best, Reading Beans 13:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you@Reading Beans I will review the article accordingly as per your advise. Cfaso2000 (talk) 14:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again @Gabriel601 has nominated my article for deletion. This is the 3rd time he is doing so in a week or so making me wonder what this is all about. Nevertheless, regarding Paul Ururuka, who was honoured with the national honour of Commander of the Federal Republic by Rt. Hon Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first President of Nigeria, he is notable. You may reference some Nigerian history to get convinced. Cfaso2000 (talk) 14:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cfaso2000, not everyone conferred with CON, OON or similar titles is notable. Ururuka is notable here simple notable because he was a regional minister for works and simpler positions. Don’t create articles because they were given titles by the government. This ain’t politics. Best, Reading Beans 14:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Regional minister listed on the Regional minister article page that doesn't meet WP:GNG. The WP:NPOL state that Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline. If I can repeat that again "does not guarantee notability." If not they are lot of politicians with a lot of political office work but no coverage about them. Other editors can now possibly use statement from this AFD rather than what Wikipedia says to judge their own article. Gabriel (……?) 17:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it was Engr. David Umahi I will accept that because his not only given the position of a minister of work same as Paul Ururuka but has a lot of coverage about him. My question is that where was the news when Paul Ururuka was alive. Gabriel (……?) 17:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where was the news when Paul Ururuka was alive? He died in 1970 and the internet was not invented or was not available for public consumption back then(was only for military use). You would need to subscribe to Reuters to get back issues of digitized print news about him. The same applies to all the ministers back then...although some have had continued coverage after death, but remember, "notability is not temporary". If you were notable between 1954-1970, you should be notable now. That he is being immortalized today shows he was and is still notable. He was in charge of 8 states (former Easter Region constituting the five south eastern states, then Rivers, Akwa Ibom and Cross River States) of current day Nigeria. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabriel601, please, WP:LISTEN to me when I tell you that the subject passes NPOL. The monument about him built the Abia State government is still standing at Obikabia junction. Your argument sounds like one of the arguments to avoid in a deletion discussion. Best, Reading Beans 09:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Clear pass of WP:NPOLITICIAN 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2028 Cypriot presidential election

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Sounds like a violation of WP:NOTCRYSTAL. The election is more than 3 years from now Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Not sure if the nominator has read NOTCRYSTAL, but the first bullet point of it says "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." This is clearly a scheduled and notable event that is almost certain to take place. What has generally been regarded to be a valid reason for nominating future election articles for deletion is a lack of information specific to the election in question. However, in this case there are numerous sources for the potential candidates for this election. As a result, I don't see a valid reason to delete it. Cheers, Number 5 7 17:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Maharashtra Premier League

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Another domestic event with not enough coverage on independent reliable sources; Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 12:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maharashtra Premier League

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Another domestic league with not enough coverage on independent reliable source; Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 12:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerala Cricket League

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Not enough coverage on independent sources; Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 12:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Super Cool (song)

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Should be redirected to Book (album), as its only coverage is within the context of the album. The sources on the article do not establish significant independent notability for this song. Its main claim (before my removal of it) was going to number one on some chart called the "SubModern Tracks", which is published on a non-descript website but has no clear methodology or claim to significance, so would appear to be a candidate for WP:BADCHARTS. The sources are: a link to a podcast episode about the album; an interview with a band member about the album; a PopMatters review for the album; a They Might Be Giants wiki page (obviously failing WP:USERG), and one blog-news article on a site called Soundsphere that moreso focuses on the album. Ss112 11:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect per nomination. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroflot Flight 34

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: There exists no (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects and no long-term impact on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1940s or to List of accidents and incidents involving the DC-3 in 1947, since there are nearly zero sources about the accident. SignorPignolini

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Delete per WP:N. The Soviet Union was notoriously tight-lipped about aviation accidents that occurred in that era, and many domestic accidents were never widely reported. This article is based entirely on what appears on the airdisaster.ru website, which was briefly discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_446#airdisaster.ru a couple of months ago. I found that discussion by searching for such a discussion, as my gut feeling was already telling me that this isn't a reliable source, and the "sources of information" field on the entry on that site has been left blank. I've spent some time trying to find even a brief mention of this accident in reliable sources, and have failed. While Wikipedia's notability guideline is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the current state of sourcing in an article, the policy does state that information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. RecycledPixels (talk) 17:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Next Star (Nigeria)

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This subject needs to be assessed. Rejected twice via the talk page here. Moved to mainspace by a block user named TheChineseGroundnut for sock who has a page reviewer right. I feel the award was created to backup Johnel notability on wikipedia. Majority of the edits came from the same block user who accepted Johnel seen here. Gabriel (……?) 11:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaykh Ashabul Yamin

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Clearly, the case of WP:BLP1E involves sources that are based on a single event, his death. If significant sources from before his death can be found, then the article can be kept. GrabUp - Talk 06:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete non-notable person. Xegma(talk) 13:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. But the nominator indicated the afd for WP:BLP1E policy, I don’t think that this is applicable in this case, article subject isn’t a living person. However, the matter is WP:BIO1E.–TANBIRUZZAMAN (💬) 22:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. Well with that logic, we should also consider deleting similar articles like Abu Sayed and Mir Mugdho, as they cover the same event. I suggest moving this article to draft space and revising it according to WP:NPOV guidelines.–bruno (talk page) 11:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of massacres of Bosniaks

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For the most part, we don't list these based on ethnic affiliation. Essentially this is just copied from already existing articles: List of mass executions and massacres in Yugoslavia during World War II and List of massacres in the Bosnian War. Griboski (talk) 16:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. As a regular user (directed from https://weekly.hatnote.com/archive/en/20240913/weeklypedia_20240913.html ), the article subjectively seems interesting & valuable to me). Aristotles (talk) 22:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. What do you mean we don’t list these based on ethnic affiliation for the most part? List of massacres of Turkish people? List of massacres of Armenians? List of massacres of Azerbaijanis?

As for your second point, I mean you could argue any duplicate / identical information across articles is copied? This list focuses solely on Bosniaks, so I believe it deserves its own article, as did the curation page. Nevertheless, that does not warrant for deletion an article that cites 25 RS Aliy Dawut (talk) 19:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yet there's no list for Albanians, Croats, Serbs, Macedonians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Russians, Ukrainians, and so on. My view is that we shouldn't be going down that road when most of them are already listed by conflict or country. --Griboski (talk) 20:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok… I understand your personal view on the matter but again I don’t think that is enough to justify deleting an article that cites multiple RS and passed Wikipedia curation standards fairly quickly. Why not try and address concerns on the talk page instead of immediately attempting to delete an entire article? Aliy Dawut (talk) 20:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly oppose the request. The fact that the theme is present in other articles doesn't warrant the deletion of an article. OP also called for deletion of Genocide of Bosniaks in World War II. Well... As an other user suggested, one could simply discuss this in the talk page instead of hastily attempting to delete it. AlexBachmann (talk) 22:47, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All articles on the line of List of massacres of X should be deleted. — Sadko (words are wind) 00:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree, we know this statement will not lead to the deletion of X articles. Maintaining my argument. AlexBachmann (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. That logic seems rather flawed, no offense to the above user. Aliy Dawut (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Most of these are not notable. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 09:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean “not notable”? And why is that reason to delete an article that cites multiple RS? Aliy Dawut (talk) 08:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of these are not notable Excuse me? AlexBachmann (talk) 22:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have some questions: probably for Aliy Dawut 1) there are items here that are not on either of the lists covering Yugoslavia and the Bosnian War. Should they be added to those lists? (I note that in some cases the lists have used different names, so it's hard to tell what is and isn't missing, if anything.) 2) What does this list provide that the others do not? It looks to me like this is a chosen subset of those - why is this subset needed? Lamona (talk) 02:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1) Well, one of the main reasons I created this page was because I felt that the existing articles such as List of massacres in the Bosnian War and List of massacres in the Croatian War of Independence etc did not extensively cover the full scale and list of massacres and atrocities, mainly against Bosniaks, that they can and should. I feel that this article adds a greater degree of detail and context to that. 2) See my previous answer, and not only quality and detail, but in terms of sheer quantity as well Aliy Dawut (talk) 02:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could this be satisfied by edits to those lists? Lamona (talk) 16:49, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean possibly, but why do that when we could just leave this already existing much more detailed and complete list up and running? Aliy Dawut (talk) 19:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the point of this AfD is about redundancy: "For the most part, we don't list these based on ethnic affiliation. Essentially this is just copied from already existing articles". So it seems like a "keep" !vote needs to respond to to that. Lamona (talk) 03:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There have already been several responses to that, which was the original AFD request. Again, there are several other ethnic group related massacre articles already present and established, and although there is some material which is the same as other articles for obvious reasons, there is still much new and unique content listed here. Moreover, as I and another user pointed out, this concern doesn’t seem to warrant the immediate deletion of an entire article that cites a multitude of RS. Why not address the concerns on the talk page first instead of going right for a deletion attempt? Aliy Dawut (talk) 03:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. I have not much else to add besides what I and others on the oppose side have already definitively stated. Please see my above points for opposing and feel free to ask me any further questions Aliy Dawut (talk) 11:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Justin R. Begnaud

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Nominating for deletion as a BEFORE check does not show any significant coverage of the article subject. I am also unable to locate within any of the references used in the article, Evidence of significant coverage. Most of the article is entirely unsourced and appears to constitute original research. There is no secondary coverage available to substantiate many of the claims made. The article would have to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopaedic and I do not believe there is sufficient sourcing out there to do so. This means deletion is I believe the most appropriate option available. It is possible that some of the works this man has been a producer for our notable however notability is not inherited and he would still need to meet the criteria set out at WP:NPRODUCER, which he does not. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination, I couldn't find SIGCOV in reliable sources, either, just passing mentions in articles about films. He's reportedly on award-winning films, but on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. Two of the sources cited don't mention him. The promotional wording, unsourced claims about his early life and article creator's edit history all suggested undisclosed paid editing. If kept, the article should be moved to Justin Begnaud per WP:COMMONNAME. Wikishovel (talk) 14:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Kerala Cricket League

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Not enough coverage on independent sources; Fails WP:GNG. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Finvasia

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An article about a finance company. Previous instances were soft-deleted at AfD (January 2022) and deleted at AfD in April 2024; this instance was created by a new editor, rejected at AfC in July, then moved into main space by the article creator. The present article content lists acquisitions and licenses which fall under WP:ORGTRIV; the most substantial references are the interview pieces in Times Now and Cyprus Business News, but these are presenting a company-aspirational view. I don't see sufficient coverage to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 08:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Concurring with nom, and also with the previous instances of soft-deletions at AfD. Although future notability might be possible from what seems to be emerging scandals about tech breaks coming to light. GuardianH (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hoiio

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No references here. WP:BEFORE shows limited coverage of the company. WP:GNG not met. – robertsky (talk) 10:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - there is Straits Times but I don't think that it's enough for WP:NCORP Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I agree that the Straits times article is significant coverage, but it's only one article and I found very little else let alone lengthy coverage.
Article was significantly cut back in 2020 on the grounds of promotional content, but that also took out a lot of content and links. Anyone interested in arguing for keep might want to explore the diff. Of the removed links I found these two interesting but ultimately not sufficiently independent:

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Border 2 (2026 film)

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Film has not received enough significant coverage to warrant a standalone article, per WP:NFF and WP:TOOSOON. Draftify until the topic receives more coverage BOVINEBOY2008 10:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify, I agree with Bovineboy here. Put it in drafts until we can get a better picture of its notability. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 11:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Border_(1997_film)#Sequel -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. Too early. The makers are still making announcements about the cast. Film is still at early stage of making and is in pre-production. There is nothing notable yet. RangersRus (talk) 12:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Ikeazor

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Contested draft, so we're here. The role has no inherent notability and sourcing found does not establish ANYBIO or the GNG Star Mississippi 20:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I do not believe that this article should be deleted for the following reasons:

(1) The articles cited aptly profiles Philip Ikeazor amongst other appointees of the President (Ahmed Bola Tinubu) eg https://newswirengr.com/2023/09/16/meet-philip-ikeazor-a-cbn-deputy-governor-nominee-with-over-30-years-of-experience-in-the-financial-services-industry/ and (2)

(2) The Central Bank of Nigeria is a high profile organization, charged with monetary policy and regulating financial services (like the Bank of England and the US Treasury). It's clout, and pedigree is not in doubt. Being appointed Deputy Governor of this bank is quite a high-profile thing, endowing you with instant notability.

(3) He was cited here by Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/16567452?embedded-checkout=true) as a former CEO/MD of Keystone Bank(a major Deposit Money Bank in Nigeria)

HIS BIO

In this Youtube Video of the Nigerian Senate proceedings, Ikeazor read out his bio before the Senate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsxJ6lKgEoE. This video channel wasn't Ikeazor's personal youtube channel, but Arise News (Thisday Newspaper's Television channel). His testimony before the Senate is judicially admissible anywhere as credible and under oath. The Senate confirmation was also covered by The Punch Newspapers, which I cited here https://punchng.com/breaking-senate-confirms-cardoso-cbn-gov-four-others-as-deputies/#google_vignette

Most of the bio he read out are verifiable on the following websites: (1)https://businessnews.com.ng/2013/01/31/ikeazor-appointed-keystone-bank-mdceo/ , https://blerf.org/index.php/biography/ikeazor-philip/ and here https://greenwichregistrars.com/board-of-directors/

Finally, Ikeazor has been cited and covered on major independent newspapers and I cited them eg the below link.

https://dailypost.ng/2024/06/28/cbn-mulls-policies-to-tackle-cyber-insecurity-in-nigerian-financial-sector/

I do firmly believe that notability has been established.

Thanks Cfaso2000 (talk) 21:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have searched for more sources of notability of the subject (please see reference No 7(Independent.ng) and added reference no 11(THISDAY Live). The two news articles in major independent newspapers, in addition to other sources already provided, support his notability, and they are from way back 2020 and 2018 before his current appointment. I will continue to build on the article and contributions to improve the article are most welcome. @Star Mississippi thanks a lot for helping to improve the article. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:35, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For some reason my rationale failed to appear. Apologies. The role is not in and of itself notable. While some roles can confer notability on the post holder, this one does not. Outside that the person has no notability as presented here. Fails WP:BIO. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just responding to the statement that "the role is not in and of itself notable". I disagree with this. The role confers notability. A Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria is a very notable role. He is nominated by the President of Nigeria and then he is screened by the Senate. That confers notability. His role is established by the Act of Parliament here in sections 6-9 https://www.cbn.gov.ng/OUT/CIRCULARS/CSD/2007/CBN%20ACT%202007.PDF . He is a member of the Board of the Central Bank of Nigeria(https://www.cbn.gov.ng/AboutCBN/Thelist.asp), a Member of the Monetary Policy Committee of the Bank, and add to this his executive roles as Deputy Governor, Financial System Stability (he regulates the entire banks and microfinance banks, payments service banks, and digital financial services). Thanks a lot for taking the time to contribute your views and sincerely, I appreciate it. I do hope that we can retain this article as it contributes to the stock of knowledge here. Most regards Cfaso2000 (talk) 14:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per nomination --- ᗩvírαm7 • (@píng mє-tαlk mє) 05:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have worked up the article significantly; it reads much better and with many independent sources coverage of the subject. It's more encyclopedic as currently framed, I believe. Thank you. Cfaso2000 (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I have analysed all the references. None of these, none, verifies notability. There are PR pieces, press releases, passing mentions, and churnalism, coupled with interviews of the subject. The basic tenet of WP:V is not met. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:43, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The references clearly support and establish his track record in the industry. His role as Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, and a member of the Board of the Bank, and a Member of the Monetary Policy Committee as outlined in the Enabling Act of Parliament (sections 6-9) https://www.cbn.gov.ng/OUT/CIRCULARS/CSD/2007/CBN%20ACT%202007.PDF clearly confer notability. Pardon me for sharing the link to the Act of Parliament here again. This link to the Central Bank's website also show his notability, endowed by his role clearly https://www.cbn.gov.ng/AboutCBN/Thelist.asp

Thank you for taking the time to go through and contribute to this article. I am very appreciative.

Kind regards Cfaso2000 (talk) 14:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being the Governor of CBN would make you automatically notable but deputies (because there are a lot of deputies) would not make you notable. You are quoting the act of parliament as though we use it here, news flash, we don’t. We use the general notability guidelines to determine notability (see WP:GNG). I would look at this article once more (as I had draftified it earlier) and make a source assessment. Best, Reading Beans 05:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are only four deputies as shown here https://www.cbn.gov.ng/AboutCBN/Thelist.asp, who are all appointed by the president and with their roles stipulated by the Act of Parliament. We may not use the Acts of Parliament here, but they are sources as well, especially for occasions like this when we debate notability. Thank You. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as per Cfaso2000 I think there are enough citations to meet notability.Sargdub (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as subject satisfies notability guidelines based on citations/sources available Cfaso2000 (talk) 13:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop double voting please @Cfaso2000. you've already weighed in above. Star Mississippi 21:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Star Mississippi, although the editor has discussed this article a lot, at this moment I can't see that they have cast a vote yet so I have bolded it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Because Elected and appointed political figures at the national cabinet level are generally regarded as notable, this subject is inherently notable based on WP:NPOL. They were appointed by the President, confirmed by the parliament/senate, part of the federal cabinet (just as you’d have a deputy minister). This one is clear-cut inherent. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: His role in itself is notable and the citations seem sufficient to me. I also believe the article has been improved. However, Regardless, I’ll suggest further improvements as there are several grammatical/sentence errors. Asides that, I think the article passes WP:GNG and WP:POL. Mevoelo (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Shearman

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Proposed deletion tag removed on the basis of "several sources" being present. This consists of two primary sources from the British government, an entry in the unreliable Who's Who, the subjects Twitter page and a brief mention of his appointments in a list of British diplomats. Fails WP:BASIC as lacking "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." AusLondonder (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete 2 of the 3 provided sources are primary. Could not find significant third party coverage to meet WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 12:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Holder of the CVO, a high honour which has generally been considered notable per WP:ANYBIO. They're not handed out in cereal packets. A handful are awarded every year. Confirmation that he was appointed CVO in 2003. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ANYBIO provides a "likely" indication of notability provided sufficient in-depth secondary sources are available. As made clear, with regards to WP:ANYBIO, "meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included". ANYBIO does not exempt a subject from the sourcing test. AusLondonder (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also taking a look at your own chart, of the last five AfDs, just one had a clear "keep" result. AusLondonder (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your point is? As far as I'm concerned it's clear WP:COMMONSENSE that anyone considered notable enough by the British Government to receive a high honour (one to two hundred every year in a country of 67 million) should be considered notable enough for Wikipedia. They're not selected at random. They're selected because they're already notable. That's the point of ANYBIO #1, to catch people who are clearly notable but not widely covered in the media. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The government honouring a government official is hardly a compelling indication of notability. If he's "already notable" then sources meeting WP:BASIC would be easily locatable. He's not a historic figure. AusLondonder (talk) 14:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually (my mistake in this instance), the government didn't. The Royal Victorian Order is in the gift of the sovereign, not the government. The vast majority of government officials do not receive high honours; only a small minority. So yes, it's still a good indication of notability. If he's "already notable" then sources meeting WP:BASIC would be easily locatable. I'm sure you're very well aware that that's not really the case. The media generally has little interest in diplomats. Once again, that's largely the point of ANYBIO #1. It balances out people who are notable in real if not especially sexy jobs against media obsession with pop cultural figures. If clauses like this didn't exist then Wikipedia would become ever more focused on pop culture and even less on being a proper encyclopaedia. It's heading in that direction now, sadly, and nominations like this just speed up the rot. He's not a historic figure is a meaningless statement, especially given he's still alive. What does that mean? I assume it simply means you don't think he's notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I mean he's not a historic figure for whom it is difficult to locate sources. It is quite common for British diplomats to receive honours. I don't think it gives them all a free pass from WP:BASIC. AusLondonder (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, only a small minority of diplomats receive high honours (i.e. CBE and above), especially in the modern day. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I decided to have a look at some British ambassadors to see whether this is accurate. Surprise, surprise, it wasn't. Menna Rawlings, ambassador to France, DCMG CVO. Karen Pierce, ambassador to the US, DCMG. Nigel Casey, ambassador to Russia, CMG MVO. Julia Longbottom, ambassador to Japan, CMG. Jill Gallard, ambassador to Germany, CMG CVO. Martin Harris, ambassador to Ukraine, OBE CMG. Alex Ellis, ambassador to Spain, KCMG. Notice a peculiar pattern here? A walled garden of articles, some with zero secondary sources (completely unacceptable for a BLP), of British diplomats awarded honours by their employer. AusLondonder (talk) 13:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. 1) The consensus has been that being posted in several places as ambassador is notable; in his case, three. 2) The CVO doesn’t confer automatic notability, but is evidence therefor. 3) He was the British ambassador to Belgium, a longtime ally. 4) The sources are not all great, but they don’t have to be - significant coverage is all that we require - and AfD is not the place to fix articles. Bearian (talk) 00:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"consensus has been that being posted in several places as ambassador is notable; in his case, three" Absolutely not true. You're inventing notability criteria. LibStar (talk) 08:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Saer Sene

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Middle names don't count, so only there's only one entry. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ci Sha

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No indication of notability per WP:NACTOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete lacks significant coverage in reliable, independent sources to establish notability. The content does not provide enough verifiable information. --Loewstisch (talk) 09:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
1. Hong, Minghua 洪铭铧 (2024-06-25). "娱乐吃瓜：最像郭靖的郭靖此沙幸运背后的压力与艰辛" [Entertainment: The pressure and hardship behind the luck of Guo Jing, who is most like Guo Jing]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
  The article notes: "27岁的此沙是彝族，本名诺苏木古惹古吉乌此沙，出生于四川省凉山彝族自治州。金庸小说给他侠义感，能从故事中感受到人物的重情重义，..."
  From Google Translate: "The 27-year-old Cisha is of the Yi ethnic group. His real name is Nuosumuguregujiwu Cisha. He was born in Liangshan Yi Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province. Jin Yong's novels give him a sense of chivalry, and he can feel the characters' loyalty and righteousness from the stories. ..."
2. Fu, Yuanyuan 傅圆媛 (2024-07-05). "此沙：从杨戬到郭靖，因为起步晚才更努力追赶" [This Sand: From Yang Jian to Guo Jing, because they started late, they worked harder to catch up]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09 – via Sohu.
  The article notes: "一轮轮的试戏，此沙至今记忆犹新，其中不乏与黄蓉、杨康的对手戏考验，以至于很多戏份到了正式拍摄时，此沙早已滚瓜烂熟，熟记于心。最终，历经层层筛选，此沙如愿以偿来到了横店，加入了《金庸武侠世界》这一梦寐以求的剧组。"
  From Google Translate: "Cisha still remembers the rounds of auditions, including the rivalry with Huang Rong and Yang Kang, so that when the official shooting came, Cisha had already memorized many scenes by heart. Finally, after layers of screening, Cisha came to Hengdian as he wished and joined the long-awaited crew of "Jin Yong's Martial Arts World"."
  The article notes: "在去年夏天因《封神》被大众熟识后，此沙过往追梦演艺圈的励志经历在网络上被高频提及，这当中有跑龙套的种种辛酸，也有抗拒诱惑对表演的坚持，“不给自己留退路”的此沙最终凭借自身的锲而不舍敲开了演员道路的大门，从大凉山到北京，再至更远的前方，一路上的经历，都被此沙视为“宝贵的财富”。"
  From Google Translate: "After becoming well-known to the public for "Fengshen" last summer, Cisha's inspirational experience of pursuing his dream of the entertainment industry was frequently mentioned on the Internet. Among them, there were all kinds of bitterness of being a supporting actor, as well as the persistence of resisting temptation and acting. Cisha, who "did not leave a way out for himself", finally opened the door to the road of an actor with his own perseverance. From Daliangshan to Beijing, and then to the farther front, the experiences along the way were regarded by Cisha as "precious wealth"."
3. Huang, Yuhan 黄钰涵 (2020-05-08). "电影《封神三部曲》杨戬造型曝光演员此沙减重20斤" [The styling of Yang Jian in the movie "The Conferred Gods Trilogy" is revealed. Actor Ci Sha lost 20 pounds] (in Chinese). China News Service. Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
  The article notes: "据悉，饰演杨戬的此沙，在《封神三部曲》演员训练营初期是按照质子旅的角色进行了增肌增重等各种训练，并专注于使用弓箭、刀等质子旅的武器。每天的训练时长更是不少于12小时，为了呈现古代战士身材的肌肉线条，体现原始的男性美，此沙增重15斤左右。"
  From Google Translate: "It is reported that Cisha, who plays Yang Jian, carried out various trainings such as muscle gain and weight gain according to the role of the Proton Brigade in the early stage of the actor training camp of "The Conferred Gods Trilogy", and focused on using the weapons of the Proton Brigade such as bows and arrows and knives. The training time every day is no less than 12 hours. In order to show the muscle lines of the ancient warrior's body and reflect the original male beauty, Cisha gained about 15 kilograms."
4. "饰演郭靖压力大，演员此沙自曝吃速效救心丸" [Playing Guo Jing is stressful, actor Ci Sha reveals he took quick-acting heart pills]. Red Star News [zh] (in Chinese). 2024-06-20. Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09.
  The article notes: "1997年，演员此沙出生在四川的大凉山。在微博里，他发过几张自己的童年照，在西昌市的武校，在县城的民族小学，在镇上的照相馆，以及在他出生的村庄。家人对他的期望是做一个好的“长子”，继承家里的羊皮生意；武校教练希望他能留校当老师。"
  From Google Translate: "In 1997, actor Ci Sha was born in Daliang Mountain, Sichuan. On Weibo, he posted several childhood photos of himself, at the martial arts school in Xichang City, at the ethnic primary school in the county, at the photo studio in the town, and in the village where he was born. The family's expectation for him is to be a good "eldest son" and inherit the family's sheepskin business; the martial arts school coach hopes that he can stay in school as a teacher."
5. Dong, Zhao 洞照 (2024-03-16). "原创演员此沙：郭靖的精神和境界，我只学到十分之一" [Actor Ci Sha: I have only learned one tenth of Guo Jing's spirit and realm]. New Weekly [zh] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09 – via Sohu.
  The article notes: "2022年夏秋之交，此沙结束一部作品的拍摄，从象山回到北京。机缘巧合下，他参与了单元剧《金庸武侠世界》的试戏。出品方耀客文化的创始人吕超看了此沙的试戏片段，又了解到他的成长背景以及骑马、摔跤的专长，便提出让他试演郭靖。"
  From Google Translate: "At the turn of summer and autumn in 2022, Cisha finished filming a work and returned to Beijing from Xiangshan. By chance, he participated in the audition of the unit drama "Jin Yong's Martial Arts World". Lv Chao, the founder of the producer Yaoke Culture, watched Cisha's audition clips, and learned about his growth background and expertise in horse riding and wrestling, so he proposed that he audition Guo Jing."
6. Shen, Jiequn 沈杰群 (2024-07-04). "此沙：从杨戬到郭靖，去感受表演每一程" [Ci Sha: From Yang Jian to Guo Jing, experience every step of the performance]. China Youth Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-09-09. Retrieved 2024-09-09 – via Sina Corporation.
  The article notes: "出生于四川省凉山彝族自治州的95后青年演员此沙，在过去的这一年内从银幕到荧屏，圈粉无数。"
  From Google Translate: "Ci Sha, a young actor born after 1995 in Liangshan Yi Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan Province, has won countless fans from the silver screen to the TV screen in the past year."
  The article notes: "在大山里出生、长大，去城里上学，然后再到北京打拼，闯荡演艺圈……此沙觉得自己这一路经历也和郭靖有几分相似，他亦从这个角色身上收获颇多，“和郭靖一起成长”，例如学习不求回报、不计较得失的处世态度。"
  From Google Translate: "Born and raised in the mountains, went to school in the city, and then worked hard in Beijing to venture into the entertainment industry... Ci Sha felt that his experience along the way was somewhat similar to that of Guo Jing. He also gained a lot from this role, "growing up with Guo Jing", such as learning the attitude of dealing with the world without seeking rewards and not caring about gains and losses."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Ci Sha (Chinese: 此沙) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
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Richard Jones (British diplomat)

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Previous AfD closed as no consensus, but should have closed as delete given AfD is not a simple headcount, with strength of argument supposed to account for something. Two editors favoured deleting, and two favoured keeping (including the creator, who cited the unreliable Who's Who as a keep rationale). Source analysis in previous AfD established Jones lacks significant coverage specifically about him in multiple published secondary sources and therefore fails WP:BASIC. The current article has not been improved since last AfD and instead still consists of three sources which do not contribute to notability. Ambassadors are not inherently notable and do not get a free pass from notability requirements. AusLondonder (talk) 13:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I found this which doesn't look too bad but I don't really know how it works for ambassadors. There may be more but I am unsure what exactly counts for this. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's also this. Still not done searching but there isn't nothing. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This and this are good as well. This is also a bit helpful but not as much. I was able to find this from just Switzerland and I didn't even try to search for the other places. Again, not very experienced with ambassadors, but I think this is GNG now, especially with the the Le Temps source which is the Romandy's newspaper of record. So keep.

@CFA Thoughts? PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, looks good to me. Thanks for finding those. Keep. C F A 💬 17:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thank only Switzerland's inexplicably well digitized press. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The source above is good, but I couldn't find anything else. Ambassadors have to meet WP:NBASIC like everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if more coverage exists ~~but I'm inclined to delete unless some is found.~~ C F A 💬 16:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, the coverage found provides enough coverage Microplastic Consumer (talk) 03:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@OwenX There are three keep votes and no deletes. Is that not enough consensus? PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why, has AusLondonder turned into chopped liver while I wasn't looking? Either way, I don't see any reason to hurry. Owen× ☎ 21:39, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Expand and maintain, just expand your trajectory and your relevance increases. Alon9393 (talk) 22:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by " just expand your trajectory and your relevance increases"? It doesn't make sense is arguing for notability. LibStar (talk) 00:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LibStar Richard Jones has notoriety, as ambassador of the EU and Great Britain, he only needs expansionism and more reliable sources. Alon9393 (talk) 13:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and improve: I think enough coverage is found.Santoshsah4 (talk) 08:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of ambassadors of the European Union#Switzerland. The sources that have been found do not meet NBASIC (and as has been noted, ambassadors are not inherently notable). They are all reporting on what Jones himself has said at a various press conferences about EU policy toward Switzerland. That is not significant coverage of Jones himself. The sources cited in the article are either unreliable (Who's Who and Gulabin.com [an SPS]) or routine announcements about the ambassador being posted to Switzerland and his retirement. I have been unable to find additional sources that provide significant coverage of this diplomat. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested. I’m actually leaning to a weak delete, but I’m equally inclined that he could become notable. Bearian (talk) 01:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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National Cardiac Centre

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Bringing this here for discussion as it was moved out of AfC, but I don't think it meets N:ORG. The coverage is non neutral (beacon, transformative) which reads like pay to play vs. independent coverage required of ORGCRIT. Aware of systemic bias, but not sure this cardiac centre is notable. Star Mississippi 12:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Problem is that about every country on the planet has a national cardiac centre, so finding things on Nepal is hard. Nothing found in Pubmed, this was about the only journal that mentions it [21]. Not enough sourcing to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Oaktree b. Sir, I could find some more journal articles related to National Cardiac Centre. Please have a look.
Also, I could find that some of them are indexed in PubMed too. EEverest 8848 (talk) 04:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also....you must be well aware of the fact that in developing countries like Nepal, and for non-academic institutions, it is quite rare to have a journal indexed in PubMed. EEverest 8848 (talk) 04:41, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep: Gorkhapatra, the government’s official newspaper, provides detailed coverage of the National Cardiac Centre’s free telemedicine service for migrant workers, making it a reliable source. 1.Additionally, a Nepali article on CPR training offers further insight into the centre's work 2.The Republica and The Kathmandu Post (not included in the references of the article) , two top independent English media outlets, also cover the subject in depth 3 4 .The Rising Nepal, an English government daily, adds further credibility with its article on a free heart camp organized by the centre 5.Overall, these sources provide notability of subject with reliable independent sources . There are also additional sources available in Nepali languages. Wikirover365 (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : I could find that The article is supported by reliable independent sources from different reputable English as well as Nepali media, which offer substantial coverage of the subject. I have listed few of them here :

1. https://myrepublica.nagariknetwork.com/news/national-cardiac-centre-launches-affordable-cardiovascular-risk-assessment-service-to-benefit-low-income-families/ 2.https://www.nepalhealthpress.com/noncommunicable-diseases/7173/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2JoWE0u47fWvjDOS_NCaQUH9cRpRboxQ4nBWIApaKRDKpm5MGwlcG_Iuw_aem_Ks8go2xuvaxrKVrNTKrgLg 3. https://www.healthaawaj.com/news/50528/ --Santoshsah4 (talk) 08:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amit Ulman

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Not yet ready for mainspace as it doesn't meet WP:NACTOR, WP:ANYBIO and WP:MUSICBIO. May have been covered in his native language which I also checked, yet couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV also in English language. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, for several reasons:

(WP:NACTOR) The person has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. - At least in Israel it was defined as an innovative film in that the entire script is one long song, with almost all the dialogue written in rhymes and accompanied by musical instruments. ^[1]
WP:MUSICBIO Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. - (If I understand correctly), one of his songs won tenth place in one of the Hebrew song charts in 2016.^[2]
WP:MUSICBIO Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. - One of the leading rappers in Israel, certainly in the field of Poetry slam (he founded Poetry slam Israel).^[3]
WP:MUSICBIO Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album. - Appeared and created the movie "This City"', appeared in "Plaot" (2013), "HaMora LeAnglit" (2019) and also appeared in the series "HaHanut SheYesh Ba Hakol" (2020-2021)^[4].

There is more, but I think this is enough. Eladkarmel (talk) 18:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

That's fine, but you still need sources that talk about the person. We don't have these. Oaktree b (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Hardly any sources that talk about this person. This was all I could find [22]. Just not enough for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:10, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - or possible redirect/merge to This City film which is the actual subject of the Jerusalem Post article that Oaktree b found. A BEFORE search found the same source, and a bunch of social media stuff, YouTube, Spotify, SoundCloud and other user-submitted content, a couple primary sources that don't confer notability, but nothing else. The sources above brought by the creator seem like churnalism and an unreliable source (IMDB.) I think he probably is quite talented, but that it is WP:TOOSOON for an encyclopedia entry. Maybe in a few more years... Netherzone (talk) 23:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm ok with a redirect to the film Oaktree b (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Although I am afraid of this article being retrieved after redirecting, I agree with redirecting to This City (film). Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge - Hebrew article seems well-sourced, and includes coverage from Walla, Haaretz, and Mako, all significant sources for Israeli topics + bonus of authority control for extra reference. Article may need to be expanded upon to prove its SIGCOV but it definitely exists if someone wants to add it, or it can be draftified and all content remaining merged. EytanMelech (talk) 22:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mizuki Otake

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Fails WP:BLP and WP:NBAD Stvbastian (talk) 14:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - As the runner-up in the 2024 Indonesia Masters Super 100 I, she and Miyu Takahashi have finished on the podium of a BWF World Tour tournament passing WP:NBADMINTON. DCsansei (talk) 20:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. NBAD is subordinate to the higher requirements of NSPORT, including SPORTCRIT, which demands an IRS SIGCOV source be cited in the article. Routine event recaps don't count towards notability, and we don't have evidence of meeting SPORTCRIT through any other coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 02:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the point of having the WP:SNG guideline if they are not given some level of deference? I agree that writing this article was likely premature but the fact remains that as of September 1, 2024, she has now passes a subject-specific notability guideline. In the spirit of ignore all rules, I don't see the point of deleting an article now when the guideline states that she now meets a level where significant coverage is likely to exist (or will very soon exist). Wikipedia is not served by deleting articles for individuals for whom "appropriate sourcing likely exists" just to recreate them. DCsansei (talk) 11:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexis Strum

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I don't think the sources here meet WP:NBASIC or WP:NM, save for a writing credit on Why Not Us, which is rather weak on its own. Consult the table of relevant sources in the article. Nothing in my WP:before search was of higher quality.

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
Templeton, Tom (31 July 2005). "Introducing...Alexis Strum". The Guardian. Retrieved 2 September 2023.			little content outside of fluff and quotes	✘ No
Scott, Danni (5 October 2023). "'A mix-up over ice cream on Lorraine cost me my music career 20 years ago – but now I'm back'". The Metro. Retrieved 5 October 2023.	~	WP:METRO		✘ No
Strum, Alexis (23 July 2023). "I'm finally the pop star I dreamed of becoming – and I'm in my forties". The Independent. Retrieved 2 September 2023.	written by Strum	~		✘ No
Krieger, Candice (3 March 2011). "Alexis Strum lands a starring role at your fingertips". The Jewish Chronicle. Retrieved 2 September 2023.			Short article from when watching TV on phones was novel, with a few sentences of background on Strum at the end.	✘ No
Glanvill, Natalie (17 June 2015). "Kylie Minogue Songwriter to stage Homeland meets Loose Women play". Guardian Series. Retrieved 2 September 2023.	Mostly quotes or other stuff obviously sourced to Strum	?	~	✘ No
"Comic documentary about failure in development". British Comedy Guide. 15 October 2018. Retrieved 2 September 2023.	mostly quotes from Strum	~		✘ No
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Comment: Did a teeny bit more searching, noting small amount of coverage here. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the nomination for deletion.

Strum has co-written two songs on popular 00s albums - Come and Get it by Rachel Stevens and Still Standing by Kylie Minogue in addition to the single, Why Not Us? by Monrose.

Under Notability (music), Strum therefore qualifies under the criteria:

'Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.'

In addition, Strum is eligible for inclusion under the criteria as a performer:

'Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.'

'Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).' ('Addicted' was released by Warner Bros. major label release - https://open.spotify.com/artist/49DJil4JyZdW8Upoilkfom?si=uoQw-rvcTSOKuvGOyykJkw - her second album 'Cocoon' was also a major label recording, which was shelved and has now been released and distributed on an 'independent label with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable - https://open.spotify.com/album/7vNUTEQtnCVWel68cxx5sC?si=fMuK_Zl5Q1mgtyt1TSqOAQ and https://hmv.com/store/music/cd/cocoon)

Her listing is incomplete, but she is featured on the UK Official Charts Company website: https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/alexis-strum/

In addition, she has released two albums as a recording artist, which are widely available on all streaming platforms, with 8.3k monthly streams on Spotify.

She is also eligible for inclusion under:

'Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, such as a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications).'

Go My Own Way was the theme tune to the 'network television show' Vital Signs (TV Show) in the UK, which aired on ITV, starring Tamzin Outhwaite.

She is also eligible for inclusion under:

'Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.'

The music video for Bad Haircut featured Tom Ellis and was aired on The Box and MTV Hits, and has over 100,000 views on YoUTube.

She is also eligible for inclusion under:

'Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.'

The album 'Cocoon' has received a large amount of press attention since its initial planned release in 2006:

- https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music/alexis-strum---cocoon-mercury-1024671 - https://retropopmagazine.com/alexis-strum-cocoon-album-review/

Strum's music career has also been the feature of multiple, non-trivial, published works, as well as being mentioned in articles where she has been listed as a musical performer, worthy of note:

- https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/04/lorraine-mix-up-destroyed-alexis-strums-career-for-20-years-19596176/ - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl7ld1glk3o - https://www.aol.com/clean-bandit-were-told-stop-233558500.html?guccounter=1 - https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/pop-star-music-alexis-strum-album-b2380472.html - https://player.winamp.com/podcasts/womans-hour-podcast-e59d55dc59 - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2005/aug/23/popandrock - https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/festival-finalises-acts-for-v-line-up-12712 - https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/13337233.kylie-minogue-songwriter-stage-homeland-meets-loose-women-play/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevebritney (talk • contribs) 13:53, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as well as the above mentioned sources such as The Guardian and the Metro (not convinced it is completely unreliable as the discussion was not clear-cut at RSN) there is also a staff written bio at AllMusic here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've just gone through the RSN discussion links for the Metro and Im not finding any substantial discussion directly about it so unless Im missing a discussion it seems to have been quite a leap to list it as unreliable without a proper discussion, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024–25 Iraq Stars League squads

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This type of squad overview for a league in a specific season isn't really a thing Wikipedia does. It therefore fails WP:NOT. Geschichte (talk) 09:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per consensus at a very similar AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023 Myanmar National League squads Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 00:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, this is overkill, does WP:NOSTATS apply to this? Govvy (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Abba

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No secondary sources, unacceptable for a BLP. Per WP:PRIMARY: "do not base an entire article on primary sources" - this is particularly important for BLPs. Fails WP:BASIC as lacking "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". AusLondonder (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 09:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deep Time

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No WP:SIGCOV, fails WP:NBOOK, no reviews or any other info on the net DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason, they were all released around the same time, and lack WP:SIGCOV, fail WP:NBOOK, have no reviews or any other info on the net:

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Delete, references patently fail WP:SIGCOV, and nothing on Google Scholar, Google News, or JSTOR. A Google search only brings up listings of the book. No evidence of notability. Masskito (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2

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Doesn't meet WP:NFILM. There aren't significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi

Keep Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention except youtube, which is not accepted here. But it doesnt dampen people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in last few years in Chhollywood and its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequals. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: seems to have cultural significance, at least, as first sequel in Chhattisgarhi cinema. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. All sources are poor and unreliable on this page. The poor sources have just passing mention and interview on the film by the director. Others are unreliable sources like Instagram, imdb, sacnilk, personal blog like jayjohar.com. No significant coverage and no reception and reviews in independent secondary sources. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 16:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus please mote that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood films, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention except youtube, (not accepted here). But it doesnt dampen people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in Chhollywood in last few years/ Its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898 and did better business than Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequels. these are reason enough to keep their page in wikipedia. Bonadart (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can not go with word of mouth. We need reliable secondary independent sources with significant coverage to consider the page's notability and so far I have found nothing significant. Its important that we follow the wikipedia guidelines for notability. RangersRus (talk) 21:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per WP:NFIC as culturally significant as one of the most successful films in the chhattisgarhi language, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Atlantic306, nobody is doubting that the film may meets WP:NFIC. My question is, "how do we know?". Pls provide reliable sources that says it or are we now considering original researches? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not finding much at all on Google. Is there a Chhattisgarhi language search engine? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 20:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention but in youtube, there is lot of info but it is not accepted here. Bonadart (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube channels that are the official channels of reliable sources such as newspapers or major magazines are acceptable. Do any of them meet that standard ? regards Atlantic306 (talk) 00:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

there is lot of informattion about the film in youtube, but point is, if it is accpted here Bonadart (talk) 06:41, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show us some of those sources? Here is what is said on Youtube. "Most videos on YouTube are anonymous, self-published, and unverifiable, and should not be used at all. Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability. However, many YouTube videos from unofficial accounts are copyright violations and should not be linked from Wikipedia, according to WP:COPYLINK". If you have sources from verifiable reliable official account, please let us see. RangersRus (talk) 11:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi RangersRus (talk)

https://www.youtube.com/@VIDEOWORLDRAIPUR

https://www.youtube.com/@AVMGANA

https://www.youtube.com/@sundranifilms

https://www.youtube.com/@Cgliv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvgW-dBMYKE

https://www.youtube.com/@saregamaregional

https://www.youtube.com/@aarugmusicofficial

https://www.youtube.com/@sangwaritlm870

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J2fqbib53Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iIUu_Pvyqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdFXT0M6wrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y9l4satlTc

the list includes some for 2000 film and some for 2024 film and is endless but best reliable are attached Bonadart (talk) 13:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These sources are poor to unreliable. First 3 youtube are music channels and looks like link to music videos, after that the 2 are self published youtube channels. Then 6 is again music channel and 7 too but looks self published and all the remaining clearly look like uploaded content by a unverified official accounts. Even the last source by Vistaar News has not significant coverage. There is no "lot of information" in any of the sources setting aside the problem with their reliability. RangersRus (talk) 14:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi you may consider them not reliable but lthese are the top search results, btw if reliability is bar then you have lot of reliable info on Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha but what has happened to the film, its super flop compare it to this movie - 1st sequel, longer run than kalki 2898, biggest hit in last 5 yrs, these are reason enough as per me to keep the page Bonadart (talk) 14:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand what you are saying. I do not know what Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha and kalki 2898 films have to do with the YouTube videos you showed that you found in top search and yet no significant coverage in any of them. We do not want to see youtube videos with stars and interviewer mingling and having fun but need a reliable source from verifiable official account that has significant coverage. If these above were your top searches, it is clear there is not much to go with. RangersRus (talk) 14:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Sufficient sources mentioned for notability, A search found coverage of this films in many other languages News Sites. Monophile (talk) 8:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Monophile: Which sites? [23] DareshMohan (talk) 09:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There are many !keep votes, but so far no reliable sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 07:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi asilvering (talk)

Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention in print media except youtube, which is not accepted here. But it doesnt mean people dont like these movies, infact despite that people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film has grown. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in last few years in Chhollywood. Its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898 and made more monwy than Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequals being the 1st such film. All these are reasomn enough for Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 to have a page in wikipedia. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome.

Bonadart (talk) 15:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Struck! voted twice[reply]

You were told before by another user to not vote twice and yet you did it again and repeated the same wall of texts. Please remove the second vote. RangersRus (talk) 16:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bonadart, it's important to remember that a subject can be popular, even very popular, and some people can think it's "important". But Wikipedia only judges articles based on notability as established by reliable secondary sources. If the sources don't exist, then, for now, there shouldn't be an article. It's not a critique of the subject, just whether or not it meets Wikipedia's standards which are unique to this project and often do not make sense to readers or infrequent editors. But, they are the basis for decision-making in AFDs. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi Read!|Liz|Read! (Read!|talk) you said unique!!! well this film Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is a remake or spiritual sequal to Mor Chhainha Bhuinya, a film that gave birth to an entire film industry in a state, not just that, also it gave chance to all actors to make debut, was such a blockbuster that it pushed other established Bollywood films behind. As for the remake Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 in 2024, note that it is the biggest film in last 5 yrs, made the max. money at BO, had a longer theatrical run than Kalki 2898, did better business than a big film like Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha, and is the trendsetter for sequels in Chhollywood; are these not reason enough to make it unique and derserving a page in wikipedia. As for sources I have repeatedly said local media rarely profiiles Chhollywood movies but a lot of info is available in YouTube, which is not accepted here. It's not a film/ film industry fault if it is not profiled in local media. So I strongly believe this movie deserves a place in Wikipedia, and also its well-structured and well made page. Also, the film is such a big success that another sequel, Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 3 is set to release next year.Bonadart (talk) 07:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As Liz explained very clearly, Wikipedia requires notability established by reliable secondary sources. Please understand this requirement. RangersRus (talk) 13:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi RangersRus (talk) what good has notability done to Thugs of Hindustan or Auron Mein Kahan Dum Tha both are blockbuster flops. Where as this film is 1st remake, has longer theatrical run than biggest film, done better business in a state than biggest flops nationwide business, and is trensetter for sequels. These are enough reasons to keep this page, different matter that i have seen many pages without any source. Also the local media rarely profiles any Chhollywood film, so its not the film or industry's fault. I rest my case. Bonadart (talk) 15:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mor Chhainha Bhuinya

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A non notable films that doesn't meet WP:NFILM. No existence of WP:SIGCOV, and likewise, the remake. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, not seeing its notability. Sources are not RS. Ednabrenze (talk) 02:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi,

Keep kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (which is not accepted here). Most importanly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi, Ednabrenze kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find mention. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna', a wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. youtube has lot of info, but not accepted here. Most importantly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sorry but you cannot !vote twice. Kindly remove one of your two "Keep"s in bold, please -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi actually i was giving a reply i will correct it Bonadart (talk) 09:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: and improve; seems to be a commercially important film in Chhattisgarhi cinema. A redirect might be considered, if the sequel is not redirected too. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for the analysis but keeping an article here solely depends on the number of reliable sources that could be used to verify claims made in the article. I am not from that state and I would not know the historical background of the film but if there had been enough RS sources I would not have supported deletion. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

solely depends on the number of reliable sources, yes and no, it also depends on what they say and if one reliable source proves the film is important in the local culture that can be considered a sufficient reason to keep the page. At least, that is my understanding. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Only one source by Rediff that has some coverage and all other sources are poor and unreliable with director's recognition and announcement on the news of the sequel. I would also opt for Redirect but I am not sure where to redirect this page to. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 16:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster beating 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' released same day in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it single handly gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state (very few films can be credited for that anywhere in india), just this is strong reason to keep the page i think. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (not accepted here). Most importanly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. Bonadart (talk) 11:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We need reliable secondary independent sources with significant coverage to consider the page's notability and so far I have found nothing significant. Its important that we follow the wikipedia guidelines for notability. RangersRus (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
there is lot of informattion about the film in youtube, but point is, if it is accpted here Bonadart (talk) 06:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:NFIC as culturally significant as one of the major hit films in the chhattisgarhi language. imv Atlantic306 (talk) 20:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Since I am from Chhattisgarh I know how important this film is in reviving Chhattisgarhi film industry after 30 years. This film gave us a great director Satish Jain who has previously been a writer of big Hindi films and actor Anuj Sharma who is a Padmashri award winner and MLA and gave many great actors and this film has also been dubbed and remade in other languages. Before creating this article I originally tried to create it from a draft article but the draft kept getting rejected. This article is an important part of the history of Chhattisgarhi culture. I know there are not too many reliable sources on the internet but this film is remembered by the people of Chhattisgarh. Tushar (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hi Tushar3011 (talk) thanks for acknowleding the importance of the film, if you can help improve the article with more info its better. Bonadart (talk) 20:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep !voters are arguing that the film is very important, but are there any sources we can use for this?
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hi, asilvering (talk)

i will again say it, bcoz kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. This film single-handedly gave birth to a new film industry in the state, all actors made debut with this film. Note that no one believed in this movie to have successful run when it was being made, as such there was virtually any coverage. till this date the local media rarely follows the Chhollywood. This despitre fact that films made here are of better quality and value than bhojpuri films known for crass dialogues and provocative song/dance (as per me). Its history that after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. As such with no media coverage Chhollywood doesnt get mention in media, despite that people love these films. Today this film has acquired a cult status. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a place in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (which is not accepted here). Most importantly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome.

Bonadart (talk) 15:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)Struck! Voted twice[reply]

You were told before by another user to not vote twice and yet you did it again and repeated the same wall of texts. Please remove the second vote. RangersRus (talk) 16:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The page has some sources....including a review by Komal Nahta. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a review by Komal Nahta in rediff source but some coverage with interview of the filmmaker. I already said about this in my vote and all other sources are poor and unreliable. RangersRus (talk) 11:38, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe not technically a "review", but it IS significant coverage by a notable film critic and it certainly can be used on the page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(And I can't locate your mentioning of Komal Nahta in your !vote, for the record) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't Rediff enough? RangersRus (talk) 12:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Depending on what you want to do of it. If you say you already mentioned "this" and I mention the name of the critic and you don't, no, it is not and it is therefore inaccurate to say you "already said about this". -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why it matters whether the name of the source Rediff or the critic who wrote an article in it is mentioned? Nothing inaccurate here. RangersRus (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, please! You say you have said something and you haven't. That's all. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it is already on the page but not independent of the filmmakers self claimed coverage. RangersRus (talk) 12:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can be attributed to Komal Nahta:

The story behind the making and release of Mor Chhainha Bhuinya, which has celebrated a 100 day run in Chhattisgarh, is such dramatic fare that it could easily pass off as a good subject for a hit film! Satish Jain, its writer-producer-director, is not new to the Hindi film world.

The worst came when Govinda and director Manoj Agarwal found his Hadh Kar Di Aapne screenplay unsuitable and replaced him, keeping only his story. Dejected, Satish returned to his hometown, Raipur in Chhattisgarh, with the subject for a Chhattisgarhi film in his mind, a little money in his pocket and a lot of tension.Making a Chhattisgarhi film was not easy, especially because until then, only two films had been produced in that dialect.Besides, there was no finance available for the film.

The film was mainly shot in Bhilai, besides other places. Once the film's shooting was completed, Satish thought his woes were over.But it had only just begun. No distributor was ready to touch the film. Depressed, but not daunted, Satish and his brother decided to distribute the film themselves.Without any knowledge of distribution, this was only the beginning of a further harrowing experience for the Jain brothers.Exhibitors were anything but co-operative. Some of those scoffed at the idea of screening a Chhattisgarhi film. But Satish and his brother used all their persuasive powers and released the film in Raipur, Durg and Bilaspur on Diwali (October 27).The rest, as they say, is history...The film, which opened with 3 prints, has 12 prints engaged today, 100 days later. The film completed a hundred day run on February 3 in Raipur, Durg and Bilaspur. Of these, cinemas in Raipur and Bilaspur had five shows daily -- an unprecedented record! In Durg too, the film was screened five shows daily for several weeks before it was brought down to four shows.The blockbuster, which cost less than Rs 15 lakhs to make, is expected to do a business of over Rs 2 crores. It is now heading for a hundred day run at Bhilai, Rajnandgaon, Korba, Dhamtari, Ambikapur and Shakti.At Rajim, which has a population of 25,000 and only two cinemas, the film is being screened at both cinemas! State transport buses are doing such brisk business, carrying loads of people to and fro the cinemas screening the hit that new bus-stops have sprung up outside such cinemas at Rajim and other smaller centres.In fact, people not only come in busloads, but in bullock carts and tractors too! So cinemas halls now display sign boards indicating parking space for the tractors and carts!In Bhilai, a British lady, running an institute where she teaches students to make video and documentary films, saw the film 70 times! She was so impressed by the film's message that the education system is not suitable for preparing the youth for jobs, that she even telephoned Satish to congratulate him. The film is about a family returning to their village after facing tough times in the impersonal city where they had gone with hope and dreams.The film's success means that about 25 Chhattisgarhi projects are in various stages of planning and production. Of these, five are in advanced stages of production or post-production.(...)But the film's collections picked up from the third day, and the collections have been rising since.The film, which looked too insignificant to merit a mention in front of the other two Diwali releases -- Mohabbatein and Mission Kashmir -- soon left the Bollywood flicks far behind in Chhattisgarh.Satish now plans to add a song to the film. This song, which already appears on the film's audio cassette, has the names of all the railway stations in Chhattisgarh and may well lure audiences all over again!The song is scheduled to be shot this month and will be included in all the prints from March. Satish is also contemplating dubbing the film in Bhojpuri.

I hate to make those long quotes. But do we have a choice? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And I mention it can be used, although it is on the page, because asilvering's question is "are there any sources we can use for this"? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But you omitted the claims/interview of the filmmaker from the same source that it uses for coverage and like I said earlier, it makes the article not indepedent of the claims made by the filmmaker. In the same source, the filmmaker says

Recalls Satish, "We sold our family land at Rana Pratappur, near Bastar. My brother-in-law also mortgaged his land, while my brother borrowed money from his friends. But we still ran short of money. So my father literally begged for funds, knocking door-to-door in our village. My entire family supported me in my time of need. "If the film has a running time of only one hour 50 minutes, it is because we decided to do away with the shooting of 20 scenes and a song as we had no money left."..."The film had a very slow start. In fact, for the first two days, I felt it wouldn't work. The worst fears overtook me. I would not have had the courage to face my family after what they had done for me. I thought I may have to run away..." Satish recalls.

RangersRus (talk) 14:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the only source like i said couple of times before that we can consider some coverage but it is not independent of the filmmaker himself and per notability we need 2 or more secondary independent reliable source with indepth coverage and that can not be found on the page. RangersRus (talk) 14:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't OMIT it!!!! I left it out of the quotation on purpose, to cite only what can be attributed to the critic. Your quoting it here is almost bizarre....We needed a reliable source showing the cultural significance of the film. Here you are. I'm leaving it at that. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi Mushy Yank (talk) thanks for this detailed response. I have tried to reason that its unfortunate that local media doesnt focus much on Chhollywood unlike telugu, tamil, bhojpuri, bangla, kannada, or malyalam movies. But some want to ignore the cultural significance and importance of the film that gave birth to an entirely new film industry. Hope this clarifies their doubts, once n for all. Bonadart (talk) 15:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I found this source ([24] - not sure about reliability) that says that this film revived the industry after 30 years and that the Indian state of Chhattisgarh was created 3 days after the release of this film. That in of itself sounds very significant. The Hindi name is मोर छैंहा भुइंया. DareshMohan (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DareshMohan: that source is unreliable personal BLOG of a user and with Gmail contact and says that it does not make any warranties about the completeness, reliability and accuracy of information. I saw this source before when trying to find a secondary independent reliable source but because of its unreliability, ignored it. RangersRus (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Johnson

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Playing 1 international match for a very small country is not a credible claim to notability anymore. I cannot find any additional sources about this guy, although there are many other Mario Johnsons spread across the English-speaking world. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arens Mateli

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, played 30 minutes in Albania's highest league and a handful of games in Kosovo. All the sources I could find were databases, social media, trivial mentions and a number of WP:ROUTINE transactional announcements: [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chen Tao (footballer, born 1995)

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The claim to notability, playing 17 minutes in the Chinese Super League and 9 games in China League Two, is very weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that – being WP:ROUTINE, match reports or not about him – and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jung Sang-hoon (footballer)

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The claim to notability, playing 4 minutes in the KLeague and some in lower divisions, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that, and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda in Cuba

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Article created 2012-11-30 by User:Wikijem1287, and creating this article has been this account's only action on WP. The article then, and still now, is almost entirely referenced to some secret CIA "restricted report". (If this account were less than a year old, I'd put in the effort to track this person down, if only to hear the stories!) One section, Granma (newspaper), has outside sourcing, but that has a main article; one other outside source supports a single unremarkable fact about the Cuban Institute for Friendship Among People (ICAP) (that institute is probably notable for its own article, but there's none yet on es.wp). Finally, the diff from article creation to now indicates that no significant material was added and more importantly, no significant replacement sourcing was added. The reason it's not WP:TNT is that the article, as an abstract title, lacks RS to justify its own notability (I'm sure such RS exist, but then let whatever completely new article emerge organically from that research, instead of trying to refill the outline of a probable hoax.) SamuelRiv (talk) 06:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment just for the sake of context the CIA report can be read here. A different version is here, which was declassified earlier and is probably what this article was built off of. So, not a hoax, but I'm not sure if we should be citing things to declassified CIA reports. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Googling the document title would have taken me a lot less time than copy-pasting all those templates. All the refs have to be checked now, but in principle there's nothing wrong with citing a freely-available government report (especially since it was made open long ago, and was even it seems declassified upon release in 1985, so probably has had a lot of independent review in case something was totally insane) -- it's imo better than a quite a few alternative types of RS, with the chief problem in this case being its age.

Redirect and merge is my new recommendation (but only a very small amount of content) per User:1ctinus below. SamuelRiv (talk) 14:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Mass media in Cuba as a WP:POVFORK of said article. -1ctinus📝🗨 11:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramneek Wayne

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I don't think G11 should be an option, hence I brought this to AFD. Article doesn't meet WP:GNG. I know that this autobiography may/will be reinstated if declined again and again at AFC. Additionally, it's very promotional. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @SafariScribe I made some addition to the reliable sources and believe its meet the requirement of Wikipedia:GNG Ramie.vee (talk) 06:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
HI @SafariScribe that person I am writing for a successful entrepreneur and supporting 157 people living with disability in Australia, In upcoming time he is public and political figure. I will highly recommend read the newspaper article or any source, you will get idea what I am trying to say Ramie.vee (talk) 06:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete An orphan article. Overly promotional. Probable WP:AUTOBIO. LibStar (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:NOTRESUME applies. WP:ROTM business person who fails WP:BIO. Article is WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: as per other comments - additionally, could not find acceptable sources (especially secondary ones). LR.127 (talk) 23:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Bolch

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Fails the notability guideline for musicians. The sources in the article are all a mix of paid promotion and press release regurgitation, and are unreliable as a result. A quick check before the nomination did not turn up any other sources to establish notability. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Panagiotis Tarinidis

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Delete or Redirect to List of world championships medalists in powerlifting (men). Only four sourced articles talk about Tarinidis's achievements. Anybody who competes in powerlifting (local or international) can be included to All Powerlifting and Open Powerlifting. I'm skeptical if only four articles are good enough for an article. ViciousViper47 (talk) 03:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hassan El Belghiti

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Delete or Redirect to List of world championships medalists in powerlifting (men). Only has two articles sourced, both by BarBend. Anybody who competes in powerlifting (local or international) can be included to All Powerlifting and Open Powerlifting. ViciousViper47 (talk) 03:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Moldova, Berlin

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Unreferenced article that merely is a list of ambassadors. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to some article about German-Moldovan relations, don't know which one, and salvage Andre🚐 18:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete nothing on it. Xegma(talk) 14:08, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No sources, lacking encyclopedic content and no suggestion as to a target for redirecting. AusLondonder (talk) 09:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about Germany–Moldova relations? I was wrong, finding that article just took me 20 seconds. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022–23 Kapfenberger SV season

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season article for second tier austrian side. has not been updated since before the season started and is clearly unfit for mainspace. I find no evidence that such an article could pass WP:GNG but should others disagree, moving to draftspace may be more appropriate. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related pages as they are also not currently fit for mainspace and show no evidence of notability:

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Procedural close We've been through this before, different football clubs seasons can't be bundled and should not be bundled. You have to nominated them individually. Govvy (talk) 19:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all – The articles were formatted practically identically, are incomplete, have few sources and do not demonstrate WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 05:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The articles have been largely updated. Bayern Munich themselves loan players to these clubs so they can be considered to meet the criteria for significant coverage. EpicAdventurer (talk) 15:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete all per nom, although in future such bundling is not...ideal. Giant Snowman 18:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, they can be saved. Liefering's article, for example, is the season in which Red Bull Salzburg striker Karim Konaté rose to stardom. Isn't that worth covering?--EpicAdventurer (talk) 18:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EpicAdventurer I don't see how Konate playing for Liefering would consist of GNG-worthy coverage of their season or any content on the season article that wouldn't instead belong on Konate's. The league doesnt even get regular match reports on [kicker.at] or [skysportaustria.at], theres just not enough coverage of the 2. Liga to get close to justifying club season articles at this level. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 22:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Like this: https://www.kicker.at/young-violets-gegen-liefering-2022-liga-oesterreich-4789178/schema ? EpicAdventurer (talk) 22:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EpicAdventurer that's not a match report, just a list of scorers and substitutions. compare to the coverage given to the Austrian Bundesliga - [31] Microwave Anarchist (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This does not determine whether the article deserves to stay or not. If there are yellow cards and coverage like the statistics on SofaScore, it means that the league is as important as the Italian third division league or any lower league in a European country. EpicAdventurer (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yellow cards being recorded on SofaScore does not contribute towards GNG lol. to demonstrate that these articles are worthy of keeping you'll have to show meaningful secondary coverage of these club's seasons actually exists. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 23:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your going off script is a strong indication of who you are. EpicAdventurer (talk) 23:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@EpicAdventurer what do you mean by this??? Microwave Anarchist (talk) 23:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.skysports.com/football/fc-liefering-vs-sv-horn/teams/470426. https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/fc-liefering/7790. The 2. Liga is also listed as a professional league! EpicAdventurer (talk) 23:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Velappaya Mahadevar temple

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no RS found found based on a google search. Sohom (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I also found nothing. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 19:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am still at a delete stance. Citation 1 is just a list of a whole bunch of temples. Citation 2 dedicates exactly seventeen words to the temple and just says its location. The legend of the temple is not going to help contribute to notability much. I don't know about citation four but it's a census which does not give me hope for the amount of SIGCOV it has. Citation 5 is just a list of temples, I have questions about the reliability of citations 6 and 7, and I don't know about citation 8. ‍Relativity ⚡️ 02:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

retain this article because this article deals with the temple among the 108 Shiva Temples in India and as per Wikipedia guidelines it is enough for an article with three lines and subsequent wikipedians improve it. பொதுஉதவி (talk) 12:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Just added a few references and more info to the article. More seems to be available since there are published works containing this topic. The article now passes WP:GNG. Rasnaboy (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting that non of the sources added are considered RS. Most of them are listicals or travel guides that provide little to no reliable information. Sohom (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
draftify is the best option as, currently the article lacks historical context, reliable sources, and much more QueerEcofeminist🌈 16:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Considered in the WP:LOCAL, it has Reliable sources ~~ Spworld2 (talk) 11:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:LOCAL is not a policy. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: sorry but without any reliable sources available, this temple is not notable. The pleas for keep unfortunately do not relate to any of Wikipedia's standards. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I did a WP:BEFORE on "Velappaya Shiva Temple" and "Velappaya Mahadevar Temple", but there are no hits on google books or scholars. I believe the temple may have had a different name in earlier times or it is known by another keyword. This could be improved if we can identify the correct term to search for. User:Spworld2, User:Rasnaboy, User:பொதுஉதவி Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~. As per Google books, a book titled 'The Mahabharta : A Summary For Beginners' written by the author Madhavan Kutty Manikath and published by 'Author's Ink Publications', at the footnote on page number 130, it is mentioned about Velappaya Mahadevar Temple, at Thrissur, in Kerala.

பொதுஉதவி (talk) 06:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:பொதுஉதவி, you have voted already and a mere mention of the temple's name in a book does not make it notable. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've struck the duplicate vote. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Danny Reagan

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WP:FANCRUFT article with almost exclusively primary sources. No evidence of notability outside of the confines of the show and no information that can't be found at List of Blue Bloods characters. Mbdfar (talk) 03:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Reagan may also be of questionable notability. Mbdfar (talk) 03:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. These are the lead characters in a highly popular and well-discussed series. A Google News search returns hundreds of results, including articles primarily about the character, e.g., the just-published "Why Blue Bloods Fans Can't Stand Danny Reagan", Kieran Fisher, Looper (September 9, 2024); "It's Time for 'Blue Bloods' to Give Danny a New Romance", Jenna Kaylor, Collider (April 20, 2024). In print media, see, e.g., Les Linz, "Lessons from Blue Bloods that we can learn", The Seymour Tribune (July 31, 2021), p. A4, primarily about the Danny Reagan character. The ease with which sources can be found suggests that not a modicum of WP:BEFORE was done for this nomination. BD2412 T 03:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No questioning the notability of the series. Trivial mentions and characterizations in low-quality pop culture websites as your Google News search supplies does not indicate stand-alone notability outside of the context of the show. The character, despite being a lead, does not inherit notability from the show. I fail to see the encyclopedic value of the Looper article of recycled Reddit comments or the simple plot synopses found in the Collider article. I'm not even sure how to address the The Seymour Tribune piece. Mbdfar (talk) 03:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - If you're not sure how to address an article that ran in a print newspaper, then perhaps you should consider dropping it. Here's another source from near the very beginning of the series: "From New Kid to tough cop", David Hiltbrand, The Hackensack Record (November 11, 2011), p. G35. By the way, Newspapers.com returns over 800 hits for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", so I can do this all day. BD2412 T 03:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - I only say that because it is a fluff article relating the character to biblical proverbs which does not seem encyclopedic, though it at least is relating the character to something outside of the show. That Hackensack article is about the actor, and I do not question the notability of Donnie Wahlberg. This is a very unimpressive WP:THREE. Mbdfar (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - The Hackensack article is about the actor being the portrayer of the character, even as early as 2011. There are also over a dozen Google Scholar returns for "Danny Reagan" "Blue Bloods", which indicate that there is also some degree of scholarly examination of the character, beyond the pop culture coverage. BD2412 T 03:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Yeah, a popular actor playing in a popular show will get coverage. Did you click on any of those Scholar links? I see undergraduate papers, theses, and trivial mentions. There were a couple I could not access, perhaps you can take some time to find out if there is anything usable. Mbdfar (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to List_of_Blue_Bloods_characters#Danny Reagan. Notability may or may not be an issue, but WP:NOT#PLOT is. No need for a WP:SPINOUT article at this point; the LoC is sufficent until an editor comes around to cover this encyclopedically. – sgeureka ^t•c 09:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Sgeureka. Once this is condensed down to reliable secondary sources, there isn't much left to WP:PRESERVE. A very selective merge is also a valid WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. from the history, was created by removing content from the list, follows that if creation is undone, removal of that content from the list must be undone. New sourced material should be merged as well. Same should go for Jamie Reagan, can be done bold/speedy. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daman and Diu Police

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Daman and Diu Police is now merged with Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu Police. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 02:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. No valid deletion rationale. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Daman and Diu#Administration. Not really much to sustain an article that goes beyond the basics, and it can be split out again if it grows. Geschichte (talk) 06:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Article needs cleanup and could do with some more content, but I find it highly unlikely that a police force of a union territory of India would not be notable. The nom has also not provided a clear rationale for deletion, as simply the fact the organisation no longer exists is irrelevant per WP:NOTTEMPORARY. AusLondonder (talk) 09:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Following the advice of a participant and closing this AFD, which started on August 24th, as "No consensus". Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of career achievements by Stephen Curry

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Similar to other articles in the Career achievements of basketball players category, this is a collection of indiscriminate trivia with trivial statistical cross sections sourced primarily to non-secondary sources such as the AI website StatsMuse and Basketball Reference. As such, this is a violation of WP:NOTSTATS and does not meet the notability criteria under WP:NLIST. Let'srun (talk) 13:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In addition, the most pertient info is already found in the main article. Let'srun (talk) 13:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alot of what is in the article should go but there are sources out there that specifically discuss Curry's career achievements such as from Sky Sports and NBC Sports. Whether it is enough for a standalone article, I'll let others decide. Alvaldi (talk) 14:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Some relevant policies are WP:INDISCRIMINATE:
To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources. As explained in § Encyclopedic content above, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia.
WP:NOTSTATS:
Statistics that lack context or explanation can reduce readability and may be confusing; accordingly, statistics should be placed in tables to enhance readability, and articles with statistics should include explanatory text providing context.
The article lacks the context that those policies expect to put the collection of bullet items into perspective for the reader.—Bagumba (talk) 15:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The AI site StatMuse is cited almost 200 times on the page. Consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 400 § StatMuse and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association § Statmuse is that the site is not reliable and the AI nature of the site amounts to WP:OR, as the editor enters queries to get results from a WP:PRIMARY source database. Per the WP:SECONDARY policy:
Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources.
—Bagumba (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of career achievements by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a recent related AfD on a Hall of Famer who transcends basketball that was closed as "delete".—Bagumba (talk) 07:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment After reviewing the page again, I went on to delete large chunks of trivial content that lacked merit and/or were unsubstantiated. All StatMuse references and any inferable content from sites such as ClutchPoints and Basketball Reference (database-searched content) have also been removed to retain credibility and avoid the violation of WP:NOTSTATS. Furthermore, franchise and college-based records have been tabulated to enhance readability. It is fair to say that the current version is far sleeker and concrete with credible citations (with the exception of a handful of records which I am in the process of finding the right sources for). As the page's latest version also shows, Curry has an extensive list of notable records and milestones. Incorporating them in one page seems like a more organised and logical approach to me. In addition, it is common knowledge that Curry, like Bryant and James, is generally considered an all-time great with a significant impact on the sport. However, the achievements pages of the latter-two (Bryant's and James') have a wide range of unverified content, particularly Bryant's, that still stand without any corrections being made. The notion of whether Curry warrants a standalone records page may not seem like a "no-brainer", but its closure seems unjustified if each factor in this comment is considered in totality.—Beemer03 (talk) 14:24, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Treating this on its individual merits and making no comparison with the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar discussion. On balance, this subject is a desirable and valid WP:SPINOFF; desirable because the corresponding section of the main Stephen Curry article is very long; and valid because I can find existing references which discuss his achievements and records in a standalone manner [32] [33]. Most comments above represent problems which can and should be solved by improvement, not deletion. Aspirex (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment WP:NOTEVERYTHING is my biggest concern with this page:
Information should not be included solely because it is true or useful. An article should not be a complete presentation of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject.
Then there is WP:NOTSTATS and the lack of commentary. Curry's impact on changing basketball by dominating as a smaller player with 3-point shooting is the bigger story. The slew of records feel secondary, and the niche ones that involves multiple conditions (e.g. "Oldest player in NBA history to average over 30 points per game through the first 10 games of a season") feel especially trivial. How many get historically mentioned years after the actual game? But with data and technology, these are available and oft-mentioned during and after a game. Beemer03 had been working to pare the cruft from the page. I think it will take some time to make the necessary editorial decisions on what should be on this page, and then decide if the remaining content is worthy of a standalone page.—Bagumba (talk) 04:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: then perhaps draftify is the way to go for now? And maybe the page can be restored to mainspace if there's consensus at a relevant centralized venue like WT:NBA. Left guide (talk) 08:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A few points at WP:DRAFTNO suggest not draftifying. I don't see any gross policy violations that compel me to !vote to draftify. —Bagumba (talk) 08:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Liz:: I'm content to have this close as a "no consensus", freeing further discussion from the time constraints imposed by an AfD. You can consider me a procedural weak delete if that will make it happen. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 05:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I found this source from Fadeaway World which offers thorough in-depth secondary analysis of Curry's key career achievements. Left guide (talk) 06:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fadeaway World might not be reliable per related discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NBA career ejections leaders. At any rate, the discussion here is more about whether a dedicated page is needed, not necessarily the topic's notability. Per Wikipedia:Notability:
This is not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article.
As we pare the page's trivial bullet items, this will become easier to determine. —Bagumba (talk) 08:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Doddodo

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No references, seems to fail GNG Kingsmasher678 (talk) 01:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not nearly enough in-depth refs from reliable, independent sources to meet WP:SIGCOV.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete unless someone adds sources: how has a BLP article survived since 2007 with no sources except the non-RS Discogs? PamD 08:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing on it. Xegma(talk) 13:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Relist: Found source from Rolling Stone, Billboard, Time Out, NTS Radio, Resident Advisor and more I'm yet to add. Give this more time for Improvement. Pinging @User:onel5969, @User:Xegma, @User:Wcquidditch and @User:PamD. Esthersp (talk) 19:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most if not all of those sources are passing coverage. They show she exists, but not that she's notable.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 20:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also just caught and deleted a blatant copyright violation.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 20:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed that and added a source from Cyclic Defrost. At least I tried. Esthersp (talk) 20:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

She has released multiple albums under a major label which is (Adaadat). Most of the sources I added covers that too. Passes WP:NMUSIC. That's why I'm suggesting it should be Relisted. Esthersp (talk) 20:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Adaadat is definitely not a major label. Passes neither WP:SIGCOV or WP:NMUSIC. Sorry.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's sad. Thanks anyway. Esthersp (talk) 02:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No man, don't get me wrong, I REALLY appriciate you tring to save an article. We should keep anything possible! Don't let it discourage you.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's alright, it has been relisted already. I'm a female by the way. Esthersp (talk) 02:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oof, my bad. Sorry!

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting so that new sources can be assessed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:46, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of mayors of Warner Robins, Georgia

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List of mostly unnotable local politicians. Roasted (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - "mostly unnotable local politicians" is not defined, because most of them are still red links. Please see WP:REDLINKS. I think if you look through "Category:Lists of mayors of places in Georgia (U.S. state)" you will find the same un-sourced situation on all of them. And for that matter, it seems to be a trend for most mayoral lists. These are the kinds of lists that are works in progress, and therefore should not be deleted. — Maile (talk) 01:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redlinks "indicate that a page will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because the subject is notable and verifiable" - few of those mayors seem notable, to be honest. AusLondonder (talk) 07:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do you arrive at "few of those mayors seem notable" just by looking at a red link name? — Maile (talk) 11:29, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's generally uncommon for mayors of smaller cities to be notable, per WP:NPOL which states that "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability." Mayors are frequently deleted at AfD. AusLondonder (talk) 12:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Especially since all the mayors currently with articles are under PRODs. Roasted (talk) 21:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep invalid nom. (see Wikipedia:LISTCRITERIA) Djflem (talk) 06:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely unsourced list of non-notable local politicians. These lists are frequently deleted. AusLondonder (talk) 07:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The list itself meets WP:LISTCRITERIA, the question is whether it should be a separate page or back in the city article. I view these pages as a valid page split (WP:SPLIT) as the content is verifiable, and could be included in the parent article, but because of the size of the content, does not always belong in the parent article. If the information was in the parent article, we would not be having this discussion about notablilty. --Enos733 (talk) 21:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is no consensus yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There are zero sources, so WP:V is not here. Looks like zero notable entries, too (blue links look temporary). What exactly is the value of this standalone list? If merged into the article, at least more eyes would be looking at it. --Викидим (talk) 03:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Good News Voice

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After a review of the references in the article, I'm not convinced this network meets WP:NCORP. The sources included here are merely FCC records and the website for the organization, and a source for additional sourcing came up empty. Let'srun (talk) 02:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of radio stations in Missouri: the list not only includes all four full-power stations (which operates solely in Missouri), but even mentions the network name in each station's entry in that list. This is probably another artifact of the pre-2021 looser inclusion standards in this topic area — which is a problem when networks are apparently considered to fall under NCORP rather than the slightly-more-lenient (regarding sourcing quality) GNG. Alas, there's probably only so much significant coverage a relatively run-of-the-mill religious network is likely to get. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with WCQuidditch that we should redirect to List of radio stations in Missouri. This is another article that I created under the looser inclusion criteria of the time. I have been going through the list of articles I created and tagging G7 the articles that I had created that fail by today's standards, and probably would have gotten around to this article and tagged it myself. While I would usually lean towards deletion rather than redirecting for a network, the fact that all stations are in Missouri and the network's name is included in the list as the owner, redirecting is the right option here.--Tdl1060 (talk) 16:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Arneil Walker

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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2010. Not clear that the subject passes WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 02:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. A professor emeritus at a large university with an OBE strikes me as notable; an OBE probably counts as "a well-known and significant award or honor" per WP:ANYBIO. I suspect there will be reviews of his books out there, which is important per WP:AUTHOR; here is one, for instance, and here is another. Admittedly, his web presence isn't big. Josh Milburn (talk) 06:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. An architect and lecturer, he went on to author and co-author several books that appear to be important in terms of architectural reference guides. I've added some references to show that his works have been reviewed across several decades. I think he clearly is notable when judged against WP:AUTHOR. Drchriswilliams (talk) 11:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:AUTHOR and WP:HEY thanks to edits demonstrating sufficient published reviews of his books. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Itascatown, Howland Island

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This article's history contains slow-moving reversals of redirects by an anonymous editor. The text is copied word-by-word from the Howland Island, lacking context here and thus creating a WP:CFORK much worse than the original (note the "on the island" in the very first sentence without identification of the island). The anonymous comment match the actions in maturity ("Mommy I want to do color flags please?", [34]). IMHO the article should be replaced by a Redirect to Howland Island. WP:PROD was reverted by an anonymous editor, so escalating to establish consensus so repeated rollbacks will become legit. Викидим (talk) 02:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy redirect This very obviously does not need to be a separate page from or duplicative to Howland Island#Itascatown (1935–42). Meyerton, Baker Island should also be merged to Baker Island. Reywas92^Talk 20:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Audacity to Podcast

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The subject does not pass WP:N or WP:NPODCAST. I didn't find any coverage in reliable sources when doing a BEFORE. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: tagged for multiple notability issues since 2021. Nothing better.Esthersp (talk) 02:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The podcast received two awards and was a major factor in its host's being inducted into the Podcast Hall of Fame.

Additional notability and citations added. 8thNote (talk) 04:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simón Veras

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There is no evidence this athlete passes WP:GNG/WP:NSPORT. I can find no WP:SIGCOV. (Contested PROD.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 07:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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