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Requested move 9 October 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. The arguments bring up good points: usual WP:SOVEREIGN criteria may apply (per the opposers), but that criteria's own exception may also apply if the Norweigan monarchy "use[s] a completely different namestock,...need not follow this convention; there is no disambiguation to pre-empt." I'm closing instead of relisting because as Dr. Vogel mentioned, this affects many articles (such as Haakon's successors) and needs broader discussion—at the relevant WikiProjects or as a multi-move request. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 15:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Haakon VII of NorwayHaakon VII – further disambiguation isn't need PK2 (talk) 05:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Dr. Vogel (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see your point and personally I think shorter titles are better. At the same time, things look a bit inconsistent here. For example look at this template. It would be good to make all these more consistent. Do you have any thoughts on this whole thing? Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If there's uncertainty it should go to WP:RM. Personally I support this move though. -Kj cheetham (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SOVEREIGN also applies. I don't know if "Haakon VII" counts as a common name, but might count as "completely different namestock". -Kj cheetham (talk) 23:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I support this move too. I would be tempted to just do it, but I wanted to see what people thought about the consistency issue. Dr. Vogel (talk) 01:44, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose move. And know others will likely contest it too. Not a technical move. Use an RM. Walrasiad (talk) 07:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Haakon VII (disambiguation) -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 08:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the existence of that dabpage is a problem, because all the entries are about things named after that king anyway. Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:27, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 3 November 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. Each side makes a valid point; but as usual, policy based arguments should always triumph. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans (talk) 12:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


– Per WP:NCROY, WP:COMMONNAME, WP:PRECISE, and WP:CONCISE. All of these monarchs were the only monarchs by their name & numeral (thus no issues with precision). Concision needs no explanation. And as NCROY has been recently updated by community consensus to support this format. estar8806 (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even if we just ignore WP:NCROY completely, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE clearly support this move. And those aren't just guidelines like WP:NCROY is. WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE are policies. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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